4 coop player class suggestion

[Kayato]

So we are new at the game, any suggestions on wich class bring?

[LazyTavi]

Warrior, Wanderer, Monk, and Cleric are good beginner classes, but honestly I suggest you pick a class you're most comfortable with when playing similar games. Even if they're listed as "hard" classes, you'll do fine if you're already used to their playstyle.

[Kayato]

I was thinking Warrior, Merchant (for trading skill and "identify" skill), Healer (because it starts with 2 good spell and he got good stats for magic) and....maybe cleric or another fighing class.

[LazyTavi]

Originally posted by Kayato:

I was thinking Warrior, Merchant (for trading skill and "identify" skill), Healer (because it starts with 2 good spell and he got good stats for magic) and....maybe cleric or another fighing class.

You could certainly give those a try, that looks like a pretty solid composition. The one thing you should be careful about though is that Merchant and Healer are much less capable in combat than others. It's important that they're able to keep themselves alive without putting too much burden on the fighter heroes.

[Shaalanaar]

monk is great and starts with a ring of slow digestion. Starts with high block and its easy to farm block skill in coop. Just turn on friendly fire and put on any shield, even cursed, and have someone punch it until it breaks. rinse and repeat. one person gets a high block skill and the other gets melee skill ups for free levels. once you have someone with legendary block, they can block for everyone to max out all melee weapons skills.

my favorite race/class combo is skeleton monk. skellies don't need to eat so you can just give the ring away to someone who really needs it. combos great with a high hunger class like a vampire accursed.

good luck

[Shaalanaar]

forgot to mention, at around 65 block, you should be able to tank the minotaur, potentially earlier if you have your friends attack the mino from the back. its a great way to get some flawless gems!

[Bomjus]

if you're playing with hunger off, and own the DLC, vampire healer is very very strong. they can easily boost up their magic skills by spamming levitate on and off. once they reach 100 magic/casting they can be ranged support for 0 mana and save all their mana for healing. and once you have the 0 mana offensive spell, you can kill all the traders no problem by kiting them around their shops. which means merchant can be swapped out for something more offensive.

the only reason i mention hunger is that, as far as i am aware, the vampire player needs to land the sneak attack/bloodletting killing blow for blood to drop. so if everyone else is killing stuff then the vampire player would starve. vampire is very manageable solo, but i'm not certain how it handles a party of 4. edit: i've gotten to floor 28 in a party of 3 and i've been "gifted" a total of 4 blood. so while my previous statement is incorrect, other players can get blood drops, i still think in a party of 4 food may become an issue.

the other classes it doesn't really matter much. but since the heal spell is an AoE i would always have a healer in the party. just because of the ridiculous value you get out of each healing cast. do you need it to beat the game? obviously no. is it a nice boost? yes.

any incubus class is good because their mark target spell increases damage output significantly. shaman is good because they only really need rings. their transformations don't benefit from equipped armor and don't use equipped weapons either so that means the rest of your party can share gear more easily.

[Professor Cupcake]

To add to/correct the last post: Vampire is doable in coop with hunger. Blood still drops randomly as long as there's a vampire on the team; it's just much more likely to drop from sneak attacks and/or bloodletting.

Ideally, your friends should be grabbing any blood that drops and giving it to you whenever you regroup.

[mistersneak]

Vampire Shaman or Monk can make co-op play less stressful for blood collection, but don't forget that getting the killshot with Bloodletting will always drop blood from valid targets. If you're not spending all your mana on other stuff this is a very easy way to stay on top of it.

[Kayato]

Thanks for all the reply. We have only the base game for now. We found that combination pretty solid (War,Cler,Heal,Trad).
Oh yeah, we played with minotaur and hungry turned off.
Now I have some questions:

- how to build up magic and casting? Just keep casting spells?
- how to start tinkering with a character with 0 on it? Just keep scrap everything?
- how to know how much weight I can carry? Any table around?

[Shaalanaar]

your carry capacity and encumbrance is determined by strength I think.

magic and casting can be power levelled with certain spells. light works up until a certain level and is decent to spam. the best spells to spam over and over are levitate or invisibility. they only cost 1 or 2 mana for the initial cast, so you can cast and deactivate repeatedly for cheap and easy levels.

you can actually level all the way to 60 tinkering by just scrapping. I tend to run around a level and grab all the torches for scrap.

[Kayato]

Thanks, I was looking for a table like STR 3 max carry 500 but I saw you just need to level up to carry more.
Brewing potion is useless if you have good spells?

[LazyTavi]

Originally posted by Kayato:

Brewing potion is useless if you have good spells?

To a degree, perhaps, but of course potions don't cost mana and don't have a skill threshold or casting delay. Potions are also considered to be one of the most reliable ways to recover mana too.

It's up to you if you want to dedicate time and inventory space to brewing though. Sometimes it may be better to just hope you find potions you need in stores or off the ground.

[Bomjus]

Originally posted by mistersneak:

Vampire Shaman or Monk can make co-op play less stressful for blood collection, but don't forget that getting the killshot with Bloodletting will always drop blood from valid targets. If you're not spending all your mana on other stuff this is a very easy way to stay on top of it.

does this mean other players as well? if player 1 is a vampire, and player 2 is a non-vampire, do all stealth kills and bloodletting kills by player 2 yield blood at a 100% drop rate?

[Drip Inspector]

Monk is one of the best starts. Start with slow digestion ring and can spam light on and off to up your magic and casting, and you don't even need a weapon!