This is so sad

[rutra80]

It's so sad that Valve, Steam, gaming gets involved in politics. Yeah, I know Valve is a big financial supporter of democrats, but gaming is full of kids who just don't give a damn and shouldn't be involved in your sexually challenged unholy war. In the following years you'll be getting more and more privileges, but history has a tendency to revise its mistakes, and at the very end you'll pay for your ways. Remember that.

[Alpherior]

Note that "Valve" and "Steam" aren't necessarily involved so much as they are platforms where people happen to be involved, at.

That, and, careful with the "gamer's just don't give a damn" statement, because while I understand what you mean, there are people who read this as "gamers don't care about the rights and acceptance of LGBT gaymers" (when in reality they don't care in the sense that they see them as human being gamers like everyone else).

tl;dr, they think we're afraid to have 'the discussion' when we're wicked decades past 'the discussion' and want to play games with anyone.

[Modern Jazz]

It's just a platform for media, I hate to break it to you, but a kid could get something a lot more lewd but a lot less politcally charged on steam by simply lying at the age gate.

[rutra80]

Alpherior, most other platforms would refuse to release movies like this, games like fist of jesus, how they do it, pregnancy. Even if they released them there would be proper restrictions so kids don't access it. Not to mention about biased staff not reacting to protests, deleting posts, banning critics, etc. It's official that Newell is politically involved (look him up on Wikipedia).
Also I wrote what I wrote and I don't care about political correctness.

[rutra80]

Coffee, this platform is heavily biased towards the left side and that's the problem - it shouldn't be neither left nor right wing - it should be politically uninvolved.

[Modern Jazz]

Originally posted by rutra80:

Coffee, this platform is heavily biased towards the left side.

Because that's the world we live in, polls show young people are generally liberal. There is more liberal media on Steam because there are more liberal people on Steam.

[rutra80]

I say left side you say progress, must be some new form of sarcasm...
Also note the difference between kids and young people.

[「phoenaxx」]

Because the extreme-left is self-named 'Progressive Libertarianism'.

[Modern Jazz]

Originally posted by rutra80:

I say left side you say progress, must be some new form of sarcasm...

:\ I changed it for you... happy?

[rutra80]

Where I live polls are the other way around. We already elected right wing president and on fall we're electing right wing government. Great Britain would be another example. And USA will be one more example on the next elections.

[Modern Jazz]

Originally posted by rutra80:

Where I live polls are the other way around. We already elected right wing president and on fall we're electing right wing government. Great Britain would be another example. And USA will be one more example on the next elections.

If you want to get into a politcal debate I'm all for it.

I really see no candidates on the republican side that have a chance, Jeb Bush won't be able to shake his brother's presidency. Ted Cruz is a little too crazy and far right. Marco Rubio MAYBE, but he's the only one. Unless Hillary really screws up she'll probably win.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want Hillary to win either, I'd much rather have Bernie Sanders.

[that's what she said]

The thing is Valve do not actually care about what's going on in their store. They left the rights to choose for you - the customer. Valve is uninvolved as much as possible, Valve wants market to regulate itself. It's not politics, it's economics, it's open market. The best way to act - is to ignore. Games are reflection of society, you can't forcefully inject them with politics. After all equality means apathy.

Also this forceful attitude will backfire at LGBT for sure, they make a lot of buzz for non-existant cause. Sure, it's the vocal minority rule, but it's this buzz which makes majority hates them. Everyone has theoretically equal rights anyway. The thing is most games has nothing to do with LGBT because most games aren't dating sims or sex games. Politics ruined a lot of games already, just look at awful writing of Borderlands 2/pre-sequel. I have homosexual friends and they hate this stuff even more than I do.

[Sapphire Siska Sophia]

Originally posted by rutra80:

It's so sad that Valve, Steam, gaming gets involved in politics. Yeah, I know Valve is a big financial supporter of democrats, but gaming is full of kids who just don't give a damn and shouldn't be involved in your sexually challenged unholy war. In the following years you'll be getting more and more privileges, but history has a tendency to revise its mistakes, and at the very end you'll pay for your ways. Remember that.

If Valve got involved, they'd put up a dumb pink/rainbow banner.
They're a store.
This is a product.
There's a supply, and it's a store's job to put it for demand.
Whatever that demand exists, can support the supply or not, that's up for the future to decide.
Or the past. Depending on when you read this.

[rutra80]

Coffee, the president we just elected, before being a candidate, was almost an unknown person. He won because people got extremely tired of the ways liberals act. And these "ways" seem to be more and more common among liberals worldwide, and so is the annoyance of people. You may be surprised who will win only to get rid of Hussein.

[taytothief]

Always ignore the private profiles. ALWAYS.

[rutra80]

Sapphire, I wish it was like you say, unfortunately if you paid attention to releases of some controversial games, you'd see that even a very civilized discussions were deleted or closed on forums and the critics banned, while threads full of primitive abuse posted by supporters which should be banned only for the vulgarisms, are left untouched.