Gary Grigsby's War in the East

Gary Grigsby's War in the East

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Price?
What will it be on release?
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von vyshka:
It is sold with DLC that came out for the game after it was originally published. Why on earth would you expect them to not sell the DLC they have already selling for the game for a couple

I dono if you'v bought a game in the last 7 years, but after a time period, practically every game, big or small, is sold as a "pack".

This game, is 5 years old, and as many titles of this nature are sold as a "pack" at a price, usually £19 (some cases that price new), £49.99 is...

Well it doesn't really need explained.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Liam Neeson Punching Wolves:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von FuriouSavage:
i'm 100% sure thou you dont want to hear anything that doesnt agree

If by that you mean pay 30% more than a full priced new game, for a 5 year old game, with £20 of dlc on steam release, while other games charge £19.99 with pack edtiions (i.e. gold) then yea, I don't agree with placing my head in an oven.
So what game compares to it? For less? Im curious.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von FuriouSavage:
so i would 100% play a sword of aragon remake if they ever made one and if the end product looked good i would pay a good price for it. opps i feel i should thank Sheytanaslan for his write up on SoA. great read.
LOL copied from Wiki I cant string two letters together.
Dats Punny! I remember when people complained about the 500 buck price tag on WITP AE and the day after release the forum had thousands of new suscribers!
S0LD13R 13. Juli 2015 um 13:21 
Not dishing out 80 Euros for this. That's 20-30 more than an AAA title, and 50-60 euros for an AAA title is too much.

It looks a good game but priced way over, very much like those Treyarch AAA titles also way too expensive.

This company has a stupid business model.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Soldier888:
Not dishing out 80 Euros for this. That's 20-30 more than an AAA title, and 50-60 euros for an AAA title is too much.

It looks a good game but priced way over, very much like those Treyarch AAA titles also way too expensive.

This company has a stupid business model.
Its ok to disagree, but clearly you wouldnt be posting here if you didnt want the title. Its really a simple matter. Its too expensive for you...and I get that.
But let me ask you a question, when you go into the mall and see a nice tie or a suit coat...do you insult the staff when you discover the price?
I would assume you get thrown out on your ear more then you wish to mention if you did....
So lets be civil and cut the crap MmmKay? You cant afford it...I get that.
Athos 13. Juli 2015 um 13:43 
The game certainly has a premium price, but this is a history product, not just a video game. Even so, I put off buying it for 5 years because it was never sold with a significant discount price. Up till now. For these types of games, 30% off is significant, and I took the opportunity to jump in at this price point.

Having now played it all weekend I can see what the allure to this game is: Its move and combat system is very fluid, giving you immediate results as you move your units. That's an attractive feature for the scope of this title. There is also a ton of detail and history imbedded in the design and for the people who are interested in this level of exercise, and at whom the game is targetted, this is a lot of quality that justifies the price of the game. And the strategy involved is realistic and intense.

Face it, this isn't going to appeal to the mass market so designers can't rely on sales volume for compensation. I can tell you that the game is worth the price -- particularly the sale price -- but if you aren't a devotee of this genre or at least very interested in historical simulations like this then there isn't a price other than "fire sale" that will interest you. And even then you probably wouldn't care for the product enough to actually play it. Definitely a fine wine kind of experience.

I'm sorry I tabled my purchase of this title for the past five years given how I now see what this game actually offers compared to its competition. But we all have our prices, and I just found mine.
hertston 13. Juli 2015 um 13:46 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Redrusty66:
I too have many of these type of games, from the FULL HOI3 package, to victoria 1 &2, Crusader Kings 1-2, Europa Univeral 2, 3 and 4. March of the Eagles and on and on and on.

Yet again, WitE is NOT one of those 'type of games'. It's a completely different type of game.

It's quite simple, folks - the game is the same price (before the discount) that it's always been. Steam is just a new outlet. If you think it's too expensive, then don't buy it.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von hertston:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Redrusty66:
I too have many of these type of games, from the FULL HOI3 package, to victoria 1 &2, Crusader Kings 1-2, Europa Univeral 2, 3 and 4. March of the Eagles and on and on and on.

Yet again, WitE is NOT one of those 'type of games'. It's a completely different type of game.

It's quite simple, folks - the game is the same price (before the discount) that it's always been. Steam is just a new outlet. If you think it's too expensive, then don't buy it.
Hehe! I wish those of US that were EA backers of some titles, WL2 Pillars for Eternity, Camelot Unchained...just to mention a few of these titles I backed via Kickstarter and paid MORE THEN YOU CAN IMAGINE to see these titles realised...would be my wish.
Then all of these its...100 bucks! I cant afford that genius title of eastern warfare that took years to assemble and required billions of man hours to research what rifle the 13 Finnish Milita used in 1944....yeah...I feel ya.
Edited price :P
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von hertston:
Yet again, WitE is NOT one of those 'type of games'. It's a completely different type of game.

It's quite simple, folks - the game is the same price (before the discount) that it's always been. Steam is just a new outlet. If you think it's too expensive, then don't buy it.


yes, it's "special", it's the holy grail, it's a special seat in heaven, unlike anything you've ever seen...it's ALLLL that. How dare you compare it to anything in the whole wide world as there just isn't anything ...it's a genre all of it's own without comparison...yes folks, it's not a war game, it's not a 4x, it's not a simulation, it's not a rpg, it's a gift from an alien race that holds the secrets of the universe and only playable by those with an IQ of 229 and so far beyond all you gimped Steam war game players...you just have no clue...lmao

Overkill dude, embrace it and what it usually means.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Redrusty66:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von hertston:
Yet again, WitE is NOT one of those 'type of games'. It's a completely different type of game.

It's quite simple, folks - the game is the same price (before the discount) that it's always been. Steam is just a new outlet. If you think it's too expensive, then don't buy it.


yes, it's "special", it's the holy grail, it's a special seat in heaven, unlike anything you've ever seen...it's ALLLL that. How dare you compare it to anything in the whole wide world as there just isn't anything ...it's a genre all of it's own without comparison...yes folks, it's not a war game, it's not a 4x, it's not a simulation, it's not a rpg, it's a gift from an alien race that holds the secrets of the universe and only playable by those with an IQ of 229 and so far beyond all you gimped Steam war game players...you just have no clue...lmao

Overkill dude, embrace it and what it usually means.
I beg to differ...sir...it simply requires a IQ of 229 TO UNDERSTAND IT! most minions simply muddle about....
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sheytanaslan:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Redrusty66:


yes, it's "special", it's the holy grail, it's a special seat in heaven, unlike anything you've ever seen...it's ALLLL that. How dare you compare it to anything in the whole wide world as there just isn't anything ...it's a genre all of it's own without comparison...yes folks, it's not a war game, it's not a 4x, it's not a simulation, it's not a rpg, it's a gift from an alien race that holds the secrets of the universe and only playable by those with an IQ of 229 and so far beyond all you gimped Steam war game players...you just have no clue...lmao

Overkill dude, embrace it and what it usually means.
I beg to differ...sir...it simply requires a IQ of 229 TO UNDERSTAND IT! most minions simply muddle about....

Don't feed the Trolls....
Is it possible for an Moderator to lock the Thread, this kind of Discussion leads nowhere.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Keilerkopf:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sheytanaslan:
I beg to differ...sir...it simply requires a IQ of 229 TO UNDERSTAND IT! most minions simply muddle about....

Don't feed the Trolls....
Is it possible for an Moderator to lock the Thread, this kind of Discussion leads nowhere.
Oh NoZ we can all be frenz here yes?
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sheytanaslan:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Keilerkopf:

Don't feed the Trolls....
Is it possible for an Moderator to lock the Thread, this kind of Discussion leads nowhere.
Oh NoZ we can all be frenz here yes?
Read the other Remarks from fellow Steamian Redrust69... He ain't Friendly.. it's not in his vocabulary. No need to discuss a Thing that ain't change as long as 2by3 working on Patches for WITE
Freyr_O 13. Juli 2015 um 14:23 
Here's my two cents, gentlemen...

Gary Grigsby's War in the East embraces the whole campiagn on the Eastern Front, including the Balkans, and Central Europe. That's a period from 1941 to 1945 with numerous scenarios covering a number of campaigns. The game's really a board game that has been changed into computer software, with all its benefits, such as no dice and counter hassle, no CRT hassle (combat results table), no problems with a huge map, everything being automatically calculated, and so on and so forth...

Now, let's take a look at these board games by GMT ( http://www.gmtgames.com/c-16-east-front-series.aspx ):

1. Barbarossa: Army Group Center, 1941 (mind you - only a small fraction of the Eastern Front) = $65
2. Barbarossa: Army Group North, 1941 (again, only a small fraction of the Eastern Front) = $102
3. Barbarossa: Army Group South, 1941 (again, only a small fraction of the Eastern Front) = $89
4. Barbarossa: Crimea (a tiny fraction of the Eastern Front)= $79
5. Barbarossa: Kiev to Rostov (again, only a small fraction of the Eastern Front)= $85
6. Typhoon! (again, only a small fraction of the Eastern Front) = $75

TOTAL: that's $65+$102+$89+$79+$85+$75=$495 (that's roughly €443 or £318) - and it still doesn't cover all the cmpaigns that Gary Grigsby's War in the East offers...

Another good case in point is Total War by HMS/GRD ( http://hmsgrd.com/wordpress/?page_id=16 ): take a look at the price of Total War. That's $234... It's a remake of Fire in the East, and it only covers the period from... the summer of 1941 to the spring of 1942... - a lot less than Gary Grigsby's War in the East...

To conclude, taking the above into account, the price, whether it's €51 or €73, is really a bargain. Gary Grigsby's War in the East offers a lot more than all the above games taken together and it serves it in a computerised, automated, and a lot more comfortable and convenient form, for a much lower price... Of course, you need to like playing wargames to appreciate this...
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