Are there time/turn limits on this game scenarios/missions?

[Benzin]

I dont like games that hand out time limited objectives like "Take sector X in 5 turns", or "Destroy army X in days.
Does this game allow you to complete your objectives at your own pace, or does it constantly put time/turn limits on them?

Im looking for a good ww2 game after the major dissapointment hearts of iron 4 was to me, and this one looks very interesting, but i need to know if it has this time-limited style or not.

thanks!

[Mixu]

Scenarios have turn limits, but main campaign is like 400 turns or so iirc. There's also shorter scenarios. Shortest scenario is only 3 turns but I'm easily winning it on my first try (watched a youtube Let's Play beforehand).

I don't think that scenarios have any time limited subobjectives. Holding objectives can give you (or enemy) victory points though. I believe that the main campaing switches from attack to defense if you don't win by certain date (think I read it somewhere and that's kinda how it went historically).

[Come_Get_Some]

The grand campaign is going to take you a long time to complete anyways. It's not one of those games that you can speed thru in a day. I just started playing Operation Barbarossa which I think is like 24 -30 turn. So far I am only on turn 3 and I have been playing about an hour each day for a week and half now. The question should be, how much time in real life do I have to play this game.

There are objectives in the game that will give you extra points when tally at the end of the scenario, operation, campaign towards your overall victory outcome. But in terms of you must capture X town by X amount of turns, there isn't something like that. There are random elements in the game like weather that can either slow you down or speed up your progress to the final outcome of the game. Or certain units being pull off the front line for improvements and so on. Definitely check out some youtube videos before purchasing. It's a fun game but might be overwhelming due to the technical details that went into this game.

[Benzin]

Thanks for your input Mixu & Come_Get_Some!
I currently have this one, and the Decisive campaigns series on mi sights.
Those others also look interesting, but buying all 3 of them (or is it 4?) would be very expensive, and it seems to me that this one is by itself "larger" than all the DC games put together?

Anyway, i wil follow your advice and look at some videos before i decide, this game is not cheap!

[Benzin]

BTW, anyone played both this game and the Decisive camaigns games?
Can you recommend one over the other?

[Come_Get_Some]

I have play all the decisive campaigns and gary grigsby's war in the east, west and pacific games. To be honest, both series play differently from each other. Personally, if you are just getting into this type of wargaming I would start off with Decisive Campaigns. It is little more easier to understand, a bit more action orient, but still giving a good challenge. It just cuts out some of the very detail logistics that are in Gary Grigsby games. Decisive Campaigns was the stepping stone for me to getting into the Gary Grigsby games. If you want to get into the meat & potato of wargaming which is like managing units, supplies, aircraft, industry, politics, etc. in most detail form. I would say jump into Gary Grigsby games. Watch some good youtubers out there that have play this game like Lord Cucumber or XTRG. They might give you a better understanding of what game play is like. Hope this helps. Cheers!

Lord Cucumber youtube channel - DC Barbarossa playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXIwxNbJRA-BUhiIEN9RgdN-QNprbmR2T

Lord Cucumber youtube channel - WiTE playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXIwxNbJRA-ChG77UCJlESWFhQh1had4_

XTRG youtube channel - WiTE playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbSx_b5pOYvFZ7exY5OvG9s4YjiUzLJpy

[Benzin]

Thanks for all the detailed info & links!
Just one more question please...
Speaking of complexity, I dont know if you have experience with the hearts of iron games, if you do, how would you say WiTE compares to say HOI3?

I dont mind games being complex, as long as i have fun on them, just trying to get a "feel" of what to expect from WiTE if i should buy it.

[Come_Get_Some]

Originally posted by Benzin:

Thanks for all the detailed info & links!
Just one more question please...
Speaking of complexity, I dont know if you have experience with the hearts of iron games, if you do, how would you say WiTE compares to say HOI3?

I dont mind games being complex, as long as i have fun on them, just trying to get a "feel" of what to expect from WiTE if i should buy it.

Personally, I have never played the hearts of iron game. Sorry, if I can't help you on that aspect.

[Benzin]

No problem, ill take a look at those videos you suggested to get a feel from complexity.
thanks!

[Mixu]

HoI3 is more of a nation management game with military focus. I would actually say it is more complex at first than WiTE. I had experience from Europa Universalis 3 and Crusader Kings 2 when I first played HoI3 and it still felt more overwhelming than WiTE felt with TOAW3 experience. In smaller, shorter scenarios in WiTE you can pretty much just move units around, but for longer ones you need to at least learn supply rules. Air operations you can leave for AI if you want. In HOI3 you can leave unit movement and combat to AI, not so here. You really need to manually move every unit and there can be hundreds even in smaller scenarios.