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Alejandro Aug 2, 2016 @ 7:52pm
PG inside or outside ?
I love to drive inside but the stats for mid range shot are too low it seems for inside so is outside the better option ?
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fuchsi_love Aug 3, 2016 @ 10:04am 
That's kind of hard to believe, if you play a big man you can only pray and hope if you take a non-wide-open driving layup with anything below 85. Maybe ths sh.it game is working different with a guard or smaller player (under 2,00 meter). When you play myteam i just recommend a + driving layup shoe on players like diamond howard, Abdul-Jabbar, diamond Olajuwon, Duncan. At least if you play these guys not only lowpost.

But maybe that makes some kind of sense, driving dunks are much easier with guard in 2k16 than with much taller, atheltic guys. A 1,80m guard can basically dunk over everything, with the right skills. With a big guy it's much much harder to dunk over anybody, if it's not a standing dunk.
Last edited by fuchsi_love; Aug 3, 2016 @ 10:05am
Erkan Aug 3, 2016 @ 10:42am 
After seeing those contact lay ups some Outside PGs keep making in park, I say you should go with Outside PG.

And keep in mind, you make open lay ups/dunks with very high percentage regardless of your rating... But that's not the case with outside shooting. As a Balanced SG with 80 standing 3pt rating (max 85 with boost) I never feel comfortable shooting 3s other than corner ones, and there's a huge difference between my 85 and an outside SG's 93 standing 3pt rating (boosted).
Last edited by Erkan; Aug 3, 2016 @ 10:44am
arnola Aug 3, 2016 @ 11:17am 
I say, do whatever this guy who hijacked your thread tells you to do. He obviously knows what he's talking about, the frequency of his comments speaks for itself.

And that's despite the fact that he doesn't even play Career modes.
fuchsi_love Aug 3, 2016 @ 11:26am 
Yeah dude, it's called "being polite" to answer, whenever someone is talking to you. And if you see the major differences between myteam and park gameplay, let us know. I assume you dont just post here, to spam some irrelevant BS. Because IF you would do so, it should be you, that he needs to listen to - at least from your standpoint of logic. Hombre.
<Lucifer> Aug 3, 2016 @ 11:33am 
You're anything but polite though.
arnola Aug 3, 2016 @ 11:47am 
It's called being a smartass. Polite is a word you obviously don't know what it means.

You told him your opinion once, and then you used another 20 or so comments to flame other users for being wrong, YET you don't play career modes. Than you talk some sh.t about some diamond Howards, Abdul Jabbars and Olajuwons, yet he is asking about a fkin PG!

Go be polite somewhere else.
fuchsi_love Aug 3, 2016 @ 11:48am 
Originally posted by <Lucifer>:
You're anything but polite though.
Thanks, i just went down to your type of conversations, and if you would be a honest person here, you should go for that other guy, that was interfering our little talk here, or do you want to deny, that this guy was the one, that was bringing profane language and hate into this thread? Maybe you should read the posts, one after the other, and then think about who you want to accuse of being impolite.. Thanks for being a reasonable person.
fuchsi_love Aug 3, 2016 @ 11:52am 
Amota: and you are the regular steam troll right now, am i right? Just sneak into someone elses conversations and drop your opinion, that no one asked for? I guess, thats the definition of a troll, interfere other ones business and deliver literally Zero input to the topic. Wait, i did beat you on gauntlet right? Well, you played yourself. Good job dude. Now keep on spamming the forum, i will give you the last word of the conversation so you can go to bed in peace, you f**** troll. :-)
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mzapato Aug 3, 2016 @ 11:58am 
OP, keep in mind that your height also affects attribute potential. I have a 6'1" balanced pg with maxed jumpshooting of 81 3 pt scoring. I feel like I shoot just as well with him as I do with my 6'4" sg, who is at 89 3 pt scoring, also with maxed jumpshooting.

I guess I should add that I play with the pg more than the sg, so i have a better feel for him as well.
Last edited by mzapato; Aug 3, 2016 @ 12:02pm
ZenithM Aug 3, 2016 @ 2:48pm 
I'm going to add some more insight on the "outside vs inside" debate (Balanced is obviously the middle ground, it's not bad by any means, but you're not elite at anything).

In a vaccuum, I'd say they can be equivalently effective. Inside gets contact layups/dunks with more frequency, has effective post drives/spins (due to high "post control" attribute), has more strength to back people up. "Strength" is in general a very underrated attribute but very important. It basically defines how your guy reacts to any contact on the court. Guys with lower strength tend to give way against guys with higher strength. High strength actually makes you a better defender. People may not agree with me because it's not really well documented and more of a "feel" thing, but with the same defensive attributes, an inside guy is a better defender than an outside guy of the same position/size, just because of Strength. Better rebounders too (mid-air contacts tend to turn to the advantage of inside guys). Inside guys have a serviceable midrange too, plenty enough to hit green on the open ones (the only ones you should take, btw), in any difficulty setting.

Now, the problem is, I'm really not confident shooting 3s with all my inside guys (even with maxed out outside shooting, obviously). No green release, and way lower percentage. Corner 3s are the only ones easy to hit (they're like, really really easy though, thx 2K :D).

For pure MyCareer play, I'll take the inside all day, it gives me way more potent tools to iso CPU defenders and score myself. Now for Park and Pro-am, it's another conversation.

The only advantage of outside players is that they shoot 3s comfortably. They do everything else worse than inside guys. And that's enough to make them better for park and pro-am, in my opinion.

A key component of good Park/pro-am play is spacing. It's even more important than in the regular NBA play, because everybody's MyPlayer is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ huge. Every center is 7'3, the best PG are 6'7, everybody picks the max wingspan (why wouldn't you?), and most pick the max shoulder width for dat super-hero look. Inside guys are "spacing" liabilities, because they're not an efficient threat on the perimeter. Sure they'll hit the occasional 3, but it's not something they can rely on consistently. So the defender is free to defend a little lower, closer to the paint, and ready to help on other guys. Less free looks for the whole team. The problem is compounded when you have 2 inside guys on the same team. They will constantly want to cut/drive to the basket (which is natural), and they'll run into each other constantly or at least draw other defenders on the other teammate. This is the fundamental problem imo. You have to respect the "1 inside guy at most per park squad" rule of thumb, imo: 2 inside guys? Trouble a-brewing... 2 outside guys? No problem at all. And if you think I'm talking out of my ass, note that this is also true in real life NBA. You just don't want 2 backcourt guys who can't shoot 3s to save their life.

Now there is also the way 2K has implemented all that ♥♥♥♥. The way it works, everybody hits open dunks/layups 100% of the time, even with the lowest stats possible. You can even hit the contested ones with 25 layup stats. Definitely not true for perimeter shooting. 3s are really not easy to be efficient with with an inside guy with sub-80 shooting stats, and long 2s are a nightmare. Easy peasy for outside guys.

TL;DR: Pick outside if you intend to play multi a lot, and don't have a set squad. If you want to play mostly MyCareer, inside is honestly the most fun. The CPU is super good at defending the perimeter, and really mediocre at defending in the post. If you have a set of friends who will uphold the "1 inside guy at most rule" for you, and create space for you to use with their outside characters, then an inside player is good to go for mypark/pro-am too.

(As for my "experience", I've clocked about 2000 hours in this game, and I would consider myself a decent player in MyPark, MyCareer, and in all head-2-head modes)
Last edited by ZenithM; Aug 3, 2016 @ 2:58pm
Burcx000 Aug 3, 2016 @ 3:18pm 
Go outside as a pg if you driving vs centers you gonna get blocked or shut down most of the time. especially if you below 6'7'' 80 and 90.. yeah not that big a deal. u still got like a 70 something dunk but u'll have a 95 outside unless you shave a couple attribute points and put into something else. you going to be dunking on fast breaks most of the time when nobody is down there because you are so fast. just go outside. 3pt and midrange higher ratings. u still fast as ♥♥♥♥ if you -6'5'' Go outside :D
MangiaCadaveri Aug 3, 2016 @ 3:48pm 
Outside for deadly 3pt imo, or balanced.
Uncle Ren Aug 3, 2016 @ 3:52pm 
I would stay outside 6'0-6'3 for pg in mypark and pro am imo.. inside is fun for 99 dunk and post up.. 2vs2 inside players are op
Boob Connoisseur Aug 3, 2016 @ 5:30pm 
Yea outside pg is good at pg position but for SG I would go for balanced you can knock down 3s and crazy dunks
YellowKitKat Aug 3, 2016 @ 5:30pm 
If you outside you have a great shooting preformance, this will cut in to your inside game. you will not be able to finish of good defended layups, and contact dunks will not go as smooth, BUT this doesnt mean that you can't finish inside no more, its just that you need to be little more careful about howmuch people are under basket and stuff like that
So i should say pick outside
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Date Posted: Aug 2, 2016 @ 7:52pm
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