The Swindle

The Swindle

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ricky1981 Jul 29, 2015 @ 3:00am
Umm so I hacked the Basilisk but didn't win?
Got to the last level, found and hacked the basilisk, escaped the level but nothing happened and it's like I just failed the level. Am I supposed to do something else after hacking it?

This game really needed some more testing, multiple crashes even on PS4, control issues and some stupid design choices like needing to spend 400k a time to try the last level.

On a side note, it took me less than 5 hours to get to the end with every useful upgrade. Once you have 2 bugs then the money pours in so getting the upgrades is super easy. I'd say it was broken design (and it kind of is) but the 400k fee for the last level means you have little choice but to abuse it.
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danthat  [developer] Jul 29, 2015 @ 3:02am 
Did you actually steal it, or did you get your hands on it and set off all the alarms and run away? ;)

Will look into tweaking Bugs, a few reports they're overpowered.
Last edited by danthat; Jul 29, 2015 @ 3:03am
ricky1981 Jul 29, 2015 @ 3:10am 
Jeez, so I have to hack it and then steal it?

Not trying to be rude but that makes no sense at all since the alarms go off anyway so what exactly does hacking it achieve? Why not just make the default action be to steal it if that's what you are supposed to do? I figured the idea was to hack it so it was ineffective rather than stealing it so they just make another?!

I know you hate tutorials and I'm with you on that but since every other hackable item in the entire game just has to be hacked and then can't be interacted with, I think this is pretty terrible choice to change the rules for the last item.
danthat  [developer] Jul 29, 2015 @ 3:12am 
The basilisk follows the same rules as locked computers, the security systems need to be down before you can safely take it.
ricky1981 Jul 29, 2015 @ 3:19am 
So I have to disable 6 security systems then hack it then take it or can I just hack it then take it as long as I avoid being killed on the way out?

I hacked it and there was no prompt at all to do anything. I think you're going to have a lot of pretty annoyed people based on how that last level works, especially with the 400k fee each time (which I really really dislike).

There is a lot about the game to like so I hope you take this as I intend it (feedback on how to take it from good but flawed to downright awesome rather than just criticism for the sake of it).
danthat  [developer] Jul 29, 2015 @ 3:38am 
I'll take a look at how that info is conveyed, thanks. If it helps, only a few people have expressed a problem with it :)
ricky1981 Jul 29, 2015 @ 3:42am 
My mum always told me I was special ;)
Abbe Aug 8, 2015 @ 6:01am 
Somewhat related: but are the alarms supposed to be offline after youve taken the 6 security stations? Because for me i always have to hightail it like crazy after hacking the basilisk because of the helicopters. The security stations doesnt seem to work for me if the alarms are supposed to be off then...
Same issue for me, I'm on Vita but found this thread. Hacked all the stations, got the the Basilisk, hacked it, all hell broke loose, escaped to the pod, it takes off.....then nothing. It behaves like I've failed the mission, even having to pay to do it again.
Abbe Aug 8, 2015 @ 7:44am 
Well, in my case i have gotten the basilisk, so that part worked for me at least, just wondering about the alarm in the end... :)
ricky1981 Aug 8, 2015 @ 9:18pm 
Apparently the alarm always goes off at the end and the helicopters attack but they can only hit you when you are stationary so if you keep moving you *should* be okay. I still think it's boll*cks that they attack at all since you've disabled all security but I don't think enough people have got there yet to complain about it for it to be changed (and some people are okay with it).
BlueFoxZero Aug 9, 2015 @ 5:27am 
Those helicopters are what killed me the first time I got really close. Was so thrilled when I finally managed to hack all security stations and get my hands on the basilisk, only to be killed by those helicopters because I didn't expect them. So now I also leave a few bombs to create an easy path from the basilisk back to the ship, preferably with a high jump from the building to the ship, which gives me a little bit of a safe distance to enter my ship safely.

OT: The first time I hacked the basilisk I also did it without hacking all security stations. So when the alarms went off, I managed to get away with the basilisk, but nothing happened. Then I figured I need to hack all security stations, but maybe a small hint somewhere could be handy for other players.
Originally posted by Dave:
OT: The first time I hacked the basilisk I also did it without hacking all security stations. So when the alarms went off, I managed to get away with the basilisk, but nothing happened. Then I figured I need to hack all security stations, but maybe a small hint somewhere could be handy for other players.

Exactly what happened to me.

Please improve the way the Basilisk steal/hack is communicated to players.

There was no obvious* use of the LOCK symbol (like on locked computers), so there was no reason to think that:
a. ALL security terminals had to be disabled.
b. the alarm going off was related to not disabling all security terminals rather than due to stealing the precious basilisk.

And because the nearby cameras don't go offline when disabling a security terminal (like in other levels), it seemed that perhaps the terminals were only there to make the overall security harder to defeat, yet challenging the player to "Hey, if you can steal the basilisk without disabling all terminals/cameras, then more power to ya!"


* On replay, I notice the lock is shown on the basilisk screen, but really faded. Perhaps have the lock and the number of terminals still locked (eg: 2/6).
danthat  [developer] Aug 10, 2015 @ 4:24am 
Originally posted by Dave:

And because the nearby cameras don't go offline when disabling a security terminal (like in other levels)

I'm afraid this isn't what happens. All cameras go down when secStations are hacked on all levels.

I'll look into how this is communicated, but honestly for everyone worried it's not clear enough, I've received more emails from people saying how they love the fact it requires paying attention. Feedback taken on board, though, I'll look into tweaking it.
Originally posted by danthat:
Originally posted by Dave:

And because the nearby cameras don't go offline when disabling a security terminal (like in other levels)

I'm afraid this isn't what happens. All cameras go down when secStations are hacked on all levels.

Wait, are you saying that some cameras on The Swindle level are supposed to go down as you hack their secStation? That didn't happen to me. Hacking secStations did nothing (other than reduce the secStation count).

Also, IMHO it wasn't entirely clear whether the final police gunners were trying to kill me or support me (like a hacked drone would). Their colour seemed a bit muted compared to usual (perhaps my imagination though). So initially I thought "Oh cool, this is what 'hacking' the Basilisk does...super cops!" Turns out I was very wrong :p

Btw, I appreciate you listening to our feedback, regardless what ends up being changed or not :)
Last edited by Da helicopter's made'a choc'lat; Aug 11, 2015 @ 1:07am
Frogger Aug 11, 2015 @ 5:22pm 
I've attempted the final stage quite a bit now, i'm not having an issue with its difficulty but my issue is that so far the luck has been abit against me in terms of explosives needed. [granted i don't have the teleporter thinking it should be possible since theres an achievement for it]

The amount of shielded windows that need breaking through (unless im missing something obvious how to break the boarded windows up?) + walls which are 2-3-5+ brick thick needing to blow through without ending up killing the security station and ruining the whole job + getting TO the basilisk + getting around the actual final level (i find it tends to be in 4 clusters, left, mid, right, bottom, possibly 5 with another mid sector), it can get a bit too awkward/impossible.
Last edited by Frogger; Aug 11, 2015 @ 6:57pm
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