Wew devs. Nice agenda throat shoving

[Pink]

I got nothing against gay people. But jesus christ it's like you're completely blind to how in-your-face you turned this game into.
Way to distance people even more from what you attempt to promote.

[EmmaKat]

Originally posted by Cheese:

If you asked what the agenda was, then I simply didn't get that far. I stopped reading after the ludicrously stupid bit I quoted, which made it clear you are a lost cause and there is no sense discussing anything with you.

Well there's your problem, of course its stupid if you only read what was quoted. What I said in that qoute was supposed to be stupid because I was demonstrating the stupidity of the arguments used in this thread.
So I'll ask more plainly this time. Why is it political to have a romance in a game featuring a trans character, but not a cis one? And what is the agenda that keeps being mentioned?

[Tawm]

Having the full cast of non-villains be either bi, trans or gay is a bit much. The big bad straight man oppressing an entire planet full of "undesirables" who just so happen to primarily consist of the aforementioned group of people is way, way too in your face.

I feel bad for the programmer/artist and composer. Their art has been sullied. My condolences.

[Pax Callow]

my god righties are so easily offended by the existence of people different to them.

[Ransheigan]

Just enjoy the game, is good, i don't care about the sexuality of the protagonist, some dialogs seems forced that is true but i can deal with it.

[Stabbey]

Originally posted by Tawm:

Having the full cast of non-villains be either bi, trans or gay is a bit much. The big bad straight man oppressing an entire planet full of "undesirables" who just so happen to primarily consist of the aforementioned group of people is way, way too in your face.

I feel bad for the programmer/artist and composer. Their art has been sullied. My condolences.

Literally the first relationship mentioned with the characters in the past is a Ramada, a man talking about how Haristel (a woman) is his lover. They're both "good guys". (Yes it later turns out that Ramada is bim but Haristel is never said to be anything other than a straight female.)

[Rammur]

play the game and shut up

[Sparky]

As far as I can tell the only gay stuff happening here is that there were two queens for one of the nations. Am I missing something?

[BadNetCode]

Originally posted by Tawm:

Having the full cast of non-villains be either bi, trans or gay is a bit much. The big bad straight man oppressing an entire planet full of "undesirables" who just so happen to primarily consist of the aforementioned group of people is way, way too in your face.

• We know nothing about the sexual orientation of the emperor.
  
• The bi/trans/gay people are on that planet in the first place to do the oppressing. They are the aggressors.
  
• The entire narrative is built around overcoming your assumptions and understanding the morally gray, complex sociopolitical issues of the war.

[iemander]

Originally posted by Rammur:

play the game and shut up

This is a thread for potential buyers or people that might want to refund. "Play the game" won't help anyone here.

[BadNetCode]

Originally posted by iemander:

This is a thread for potential buyers or people that might want to refund

Idk, kinda looks like the OP was created for whinging and whining.

[Rpg-Nerd]

its castlevania like game where r u getting gay naythign form r u idots trying make crap up cuz protaognist is female roflmao itnernet is so dumb i swear to god

[♫ Wile E. Coyote ♫]

Originally posted by Toast_Burner:

Originally posted by Epic Gamer:

Stop pulling the "cis" card.



It's bad because I feel like the writers push their agenda onto me. "What, you don't love this transgender person? DO YOU HATE TRANS PEOPLE?!"

I would prefer to have a choice.



I want to have a choice in ANY game that has romance, because very rarely forced relationships actually work in games.

And what agenda is that?
So if it's not about the character being trans rather than cis, why do you keep specifying that they're trans? If all your opposed to is any linear storytelling whatsoever why not just say that? And you didn't answer my question, were you just as angry about The Witcher shoving it's "agenda" down your throat?

the company that wrote the dialogue flat out states they have an agenda to push. please get your head out of the sand and look up silverstring media. You can agree with their bias, you can not care that they inserted their bias into a game, but to claim there is no bias, or that SSMs stated purpose to create social commentary in games isn't true, then you are lying to yourself.
SMH so many uninformed opinions in this thread.

[Dead Or Alive > Tekken]

Originally posted by ♫ Wile E. Coyote ♫:

Originally posted by Toast_Burner:

And what agenda is that?
So if it's not about the character being trans rather than cis, why do you keep specifying that they're trans? If all your opposed to is any linear storytelling whatsoever why not just say that? And you didn't answer my question, were you just as angry about The Witcher shoving it's "agenda" down your throat?

the company that wrote the dialogue flat out states they have an agenda to push. please get your head out of the sand and look up silverstring media. You can agree with their bias, you can not care that they inserted their bias into a game, but to claim there is no bias, or that SSMs stated purpose to create social commentary in games isn't true, then you are lying to yourself.
SMH so many uninformed opinions in this thread.

my niggga its just a game calm down bruh.

[♫ Wile E. Coyote ♫]

Originally posted by Toast_Burner:

Originally posted by Cheese:

Wow, this is easily the dumbest thing I've read in quite some time, so I'm bailing on this conversation. Consider it a "victory" or whatever if you want.

Isn't it odd how everyone always bails when being asked to just state what the agenda is? It's so commonly talked about yet nobody seems willing to actually say what it is.
P.S I'm being sarcastic, it's not odd it's really predictable.

their stated agenda is and I quote the writers here "to work out how to use our medium to resist the rise of the far right [and Trump supporters]" do some research before arguing with people next time.

[♫ Wile E. Coyote ♫]

Originally posted by Soldier Kidd:

Originally posted by ♫ Wile E. Coyote ♫:

the company that wrote the dialogue flat out states they have an agenda to push. please get your head out of the sand and look up silverstring media. You can agree with their bias, you can not care that they inserted their bias into a game, but to claim there is no bias, or that SSMs stated purpose to create social commentary in games isn't true, then you are lying to yourself.
SMH so many uninformed opinions in this thread.

my niggga its just a game calm down bruh.

a game with a stated agenda. I like the game very much. But if you think there is no bias you are lying to yourself and ignoring evidence.