Do some characters seem incredibly unbalanced?

[Gamrage]

Ghost Rider for example has high damage potential but he's bad at generating heroics and he doesn't have good tools for drawing more Ghost Rider cards. He is highly dependent on mods or other characters to support him.

Iron Man on the other hand deals extremely high damage, has an ability that enables him to draw 2 Iron Man cards, 2 Redraws, 2 heroics and 2 Fast without a mod. Because of this, he is capable of setting up and dealing out insane amount of damage in one turn without the need of another character to support him.

Spider-Man is interesting but unfortunately his gameplay design is centralized around environmental attacks. Because of this, he becomes useless in a stage with few stage hazards, in longer drawn out missions, and missions where enemies are nowhere near the stage hazards. I feel like the devs could have at least extended the range specifically for his environmental attacks. I also feel like throwing enemies "into" the environment should also count as "environment attack." Also Spider-Man's chain attack is probably one of the most conditional of the chain attack variants in the game. He has a ton of caveats compared to other characters.

Majik on the other hand specializes in moving characters using portals. She doesn't need to rely on the layout of the stage at all. Although she doesn't get damage bonuses from using stage hazards, it benefits her more often than it benefits Spider-Man. She can just throw enemies into the stage hazards whenever it's convenient. She brings people to the object at any distance rather than needing someone to be in close proximity of the object like Spider-Man.

I feel like for every character, there's a character that doesn't play too different, but is inferior in almost every way.

Dr. Strange & Niko (Niko's actually insanely good, but compared to Dr. Strange..)
Captain America & Captain Marvel
etc..

[boytype]

With superheros being the way they are, with some being street level vigilantes, some being trained soldiers with superpowers, and some being for real straight up gods, I think it would be very hard to stay true to the characters and have any level of balance between them.

They very specifically use both the writing and the powers system to make sure everyone knows Captain Marvel is the most powerful, while capping out the power of characters like Captain America and Spider-Man fairly low comparatively.

While it might have made more sense "game logic" wise if the characters were more balanced, I think that the idea that some of them are just more powerful than others is pretty in line with the source material.

[Gamrage]

Originally posted by boytype:

They very specifically use both the writing and the powers system to make sure everyone knows Captain Marvel is the most powerful, while capping out the power of characters like Captain America and Spider-Man fairly low comparatively.

Dude.. Captain Marvel is one of the worst characters in the game. Her mechanic is based on her maintaining her binary state but gets knocked out of it very easily due to the fact that she's designed to pull aggro.

Captain America can help trivialize higher difficulties as a tank if you don't have conceal or resist. If anything, you proved the point I was trying to make earlier. Character balance needs to be more optimized.

[Chadwick Strongpants]

Originally posted by Gamrage:

Originally posted by boytype:

They very specifically use both the writing and the powers system to make sure everyone knows Captain Marvel is the most powerful, while capping out the power of characters like Captain America and Spider-Man fairly low comparatively.

Dude.. Captain Marvel is one of the worst characters in the game. Her mechanic is based on her maintaining her binary state but gets knocked out of it very easily due to the fact that she's designed to pull aggro.

Captain America can help trivialize higher difficulties as a tank if you don't have conceal or resist. If anything, you proved the point I was trying to make earlier. Character balance needs to be more optimized.

Captain Marvel benefits from having high block, so I just pair her up with Captain America when I get the chance. It's been working out quite well.

[boytype]

Originally posted by Gamrage:

Dude.. Captain Marvel is one of the worst characters in the game. Her mechanic is based on her maintaining her binary state but gets knocked out of it very easily due to the fact that she's designed to pull aggro.

Captain America can help trivialize higher difficulties as a tank if you don't have conceal or resist. If anything, you proved the point I was trying to make earlier. Character balance needs to be more optimized.

I mean, I was not trying to "disprove" the point. I said that I literally agree with the fact that the characters are unbalanced.

As far as Cap vs Captian Marvel goes, I am sure it comes down to the final card build that you end up going with for each one to how useful they are comparatively. I had a great Cpt. Marvel build and she was the one who trivialized later game encounters for me, not Cap.

[Ahoy]

I would say ghost rider is probably the strongest character in the game, except for the protagonist. He is the only character that can reliably one-shot kill almost any bosses in the game, even in higher difficulty. He has insane AOE damage. He also has a strong life-saving skill that makes him vanish and heal. He can solo in most scenarios even when all teammates are down. Iron man, although he can redraw and draw many cards in a turn, can't really play more than 3 cards in a turn. And his damage is only mediocre at best. He needs his teammates to finish off the enemy.

[Danceofmasks]

Iron man's mark is critical for trying to control the map. So much so that I've been struggling with trying to justify only using 1 copy of it.

[Dante]

honestly combining some characters together helps, I don't use Iron Man much but I can appreciate that he is strong when he's in specially with Air superiority being THE best Heroic

that said I usually run Magik and Wanda/spiderman since they both need some control of the map and Magik is great for that, Magik tends to give more move as well so it leads to a team comp for me where these two characters both need to position for their moves, Spiderman at least has abilities to pull/kick enemies but I do agree his chain is a little wonky compared to say blade or wolverine that can just..do it

[Zebedee]

Meh, Carol's alright once you've figured out that protect is needed and build accordingly. On U3, which I play at, there's a definite shift there from what works at other difficulty levels so using her to get counter damage isn't going to be a mission altering thing. And saying 'protect is good' is just a fundamental truth for any character who has aggro'd something hard hitting and can't grab a conceal.

My criticism of Carol is that her set-up is a little too slow, although I've never really tried to make a perfect deck of quicks/frees for her.

Ghost Rider with Nico can be a fun combination. Ironman is very self-sufficient in a lot of ways so it can be easy to overlook how different characters work together - like a dark path Hunter with Mindbender and Annihilation with Magik *and* Spiderman can breeze through missions.

[Lonetac]

i had ghost rider one shotting most boss's (including the final boss against the god), he is crazy on high dmg output if you can save up for them.

I beat the game on normal difficulty.

My fav heroes and most used after just beating the game are:
1. Hunter - every mission obv
2. Iron Man
3. Cpt America - severly OP
4. Wolverine
5. Dr. Strange

Other comments:
Nico - fun but i couldnt get into her, good dps early on but she didnt hold up in later levels
Magik - a bit lacking, probably the weakest hero IMHO
Hulk - I was really underwhelmed by him. I hate how he is always a monster in every game and universe and is completely badass and can kill anyone however when you get to use him in a game he is always sad. If he was even a fraction of what they make him out to be it would be ok.
Blade - Seemed a bit lacking, not enough bleed abilities to really make him worth it. He has one card that can add bleed, lame.
Marvel - She was ok, i didnt end up using her a lot.
Spiderman - he is ok, i think my bias that i dont like spiderman made me just never use him that much
Wanda - She brings some uniqueness to the table but overall i felt she was a bit underwhelming

[kakita tatsumaru]

Originally posted by Lonetac:

i had ghost rider one shotting most boss's (including the final boss against the god), he is crazy on high dmg output if you can save up for them.

I beat the game on normal difficulty.

My fav heroes and most used after just beating the game are:
1. Hunter - every mission obv
2. Iron Man
3. Cpt America - severly OP
4. Wolverine
5. Dr. Strange

Other comments:
Nico - fun but i couldnt get into her, good dps early on but she didnt hold up in later levels
Magik - a bit lacking, probably the weakest hero IMHO
Hulk - I was really underwhelmed by him. I hate how he is always a monster in every game and universe and is completely badass and can kill anyone however when you get to use him in a game he is always sad. If he was even a fraction of what they make him out to be it would be ok.
Blade - Seemed a bit lacking, not enough bleed abilities to really make him worth it. He has one card that can add bleed, lame.
Marvel - She was ok, i didnt end up using her a lot.
Spiderman - he is ok, i think my bias that i dont like spiderman made me just never use him that much
Wanda - She brings some uniqueness to the table but overall i felt she was a bit underwhelming

With and without mod is an entirely different game. Same considering different difficulty.
Actually with mods there is few characters who stays bad (even if not unplayables), at maximum difficulty:

Blade is the worst, because never the games make it worth to use two actions to kill one enemy, and because bleed goes against the game philosophy about winning combats fast.

Captain marvel is both the second worst tank and the tank with the less potential DPS, and which eats lots of actions to become Binary (and I still say that after making her a deck which have only two cards which consumes actions).

Nico is eating way too much actions for less results than other characters.

[Neuro JItsu]

Originally posted by kakita tatsumaru:

Blade is the worst, because never the games make it worth to use two actions to kill one enemy, and because bleed goes against the game philosophy about winning combats fast.
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I'm not the biggest fan of Blade either, I throw him in for variety and a challenge once in a while. but to be fair I did see ChristopherOdd use Blade to stack 17 bleed on an enemy in one turn and then yank it all out at once with Reaper, that was pretty impressive (and even CO will admit that while he plays on Ult III difficulty, he is not optimized in the slightest with regards to decks and mods). That was second only to Ghost Rider's Penance Stare in single-burst damage.

[Bobo]

Originally posted by Lonetac:

i had ghost rider one shotting most boss's (including the final boss against the god), he is crazy on high dmg output if you can save up for them.

I beat the game on normal difficulty.

My fav heroes and most used after just beating the game are:
1. Hunter - every mission obv
2. Iron Man
3. Cpt America - severly OP
4. Wolverine
5. Dr. Strange

Other comments:
Nico - fun but i couldnt get into her, good dps early on but she didnt hold up in later levels
Magik - a bit lacking, probably the weakest hero IMHO
Hulk - I was really underwhelmed by him. I hate how he is always a monster in every game and universe and is completely badass and can kill anyone however when you get to use him in a game he is always sad. If he was even a fraction of what they make him out to be it would be ok.
Blade - Seemed a bit lacking, not enough bleed abilities to really make him worth it. He has one card that can add bleed, lame.
Marvel - She was ok, i didnt end up using her a lot.
Spiderman - he is ok, i think my bias that i dont like spiderman made me just never use him that much
Wanda - She brings some uniqueness to the table but overall i felt she was a bit underwhelming

For spiderman Up Here u can mod it with quick.i use 2 special delivery mod with quick to knock enemy to your team mate.

[BortekThePigeon]

I find Iron Man, Spiderman and Dr Strange the strongest in the game due to their quick cards, buff + draw cards and tons of high damage AOE.

Iron Man legit has a card that lets him attack every enemy on the stage and this card deals more damage the more u use re-draw on it, couple this with the fact Iron Man gets free re-draws from certain cards and he shreds.

Spiderman has tons of movement both by default and from cards that can be used on environments or knocking enemies into environment/removing negative effects off allies. I found his chain on KO to be extremely good as it let me take out fodder from reinforcements and stronger enemies along the way. He can also apply effects on enemies making them take more damage.

Strange buffs the team like crazy with one more action and huge damage while hitting like a truck himself

[FoxGamingTM]

Originally posted by Lonetac:

i had ghost rider one shotting most boss's (including the final boss against the god), he is crazy on high dmg output if you can save up for them.

I beat the game on normal difficulty.

My fav heroes and most used after just beating the game are:
1. Hunter - every mission obv
2. Iron Man
3. Cpt America - severly OP
4. Wolverine
5. Dr. Strange

Other comments:
Nico - fun but i couldnt get into her, good dps early on but she didnt hold up in later levels
Magik - a bit lacking, probably the weakest hero IMHO
Hulk - I was really underwhelmed by him. I hate how he is always a monster in every game and universe and is completely badass and can kill anyone however when you get to use him in a game he is always sad. If he was even a fraction of what they make him out to be it would be ok.
Blade - Seemed a bit lacking, not enough bleed abilities to really make him worth it. He has one card that can add bleed, lame.
Marvel - She was ok, i didnt end up using her a lot.
Spiderman - he is ok, i think my bias that i dont like spiderman made me just never use him that much
Wanda - She brings some uniqueness to the table but overall i felt she was a bit underwhelming

Wait, hold on a moment. Did this guy just claim that MAGIK IS THE WEAKEST HERO?

I literally play max difficulty, and she can SOLO the hardest missions in literally 3 turns tops (though usually 2, except for missions that require more than 2 turns). I don't even need any other character.

[FoxGamingTM]

It goes something like this:
*Uses 2 Free Limbo's Grasp*
*Quick Soulslash to kill an enemy, with a mod to draw another card of hers on kill*
*Uses Limbo Portal with Draw Last Attack mod*
*Gets Soulslash and kills another enemy*
*Still hasn't used a single Card Play*
*Gets portal relayed*
*Soulslash's mod draws Kick (with a "Quick" mod on it) on kill*
*1-shots a stronger enemy with Kick*
*Still hasn't used a single Card Play*
*Redraws 2 other Hero's card*
*Obtains Darkchylde (with "Free" mod on it)*
*Uses Darkchylde*
*Still hasn't used a single Card Play, has killed multiple enemies, and is now invulnerable for the turn*
*Uses a few of the other heros' cards to fill out the turn*
*Ends turn*
*Gets 2 kills on low health enemies from Darkchylde's counter*
*Draws a couple more Magik cards*
*Repeat*