Marvel's Midnight Suns

Marvel's Midnight Suns

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kingts Nov 25, 2023 @ 1:52pm
Recent Firaxis News
Ok, now anyone who has played the game from the start knows the situation of how this was considered a failure and that they had reduced production of the game with the final DLC release.

In a recent interview with Firaxis Director Joe Wienhoffer. He was asked specifically about the games future. This is the article that just came out this November.

https://news.abplive.com/gaming/marvel-midnight-suns-firaxis-games-director-joe-weinhoffer-explains-how-it-used-card-based-rpg-to-reimagine-superhero-game-and-became-a-cult-classic-igdc-2023-abpp-1640214

Note this question and his answer:
Q: So, what’s next for Midnight Suns? Will we see a mobile port in the future? And what’s next on the table for Firaxis Games?

Weinhoffer: [laughs] I’m afraid I won’t be able to reveal much, but we do have a couple of different projects in the works. They’re all very exciting, so yeah, stay tuned!

Now he could have been very vague or speaking about other games. But he did not deny that Midnight Suns is over with. It is possible something maybe coming.

I don't want people to think I am starting some rumor. I merely found his answer unusual. Had there been no future projects for MS, he would have said something like, No, nothing yet, but stay tuned. He did not. Take it for what it is.

Peace my brothers. :Garrison:
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bshock Nov 25, 2023 @ 2:26pm 
Midnight Suns work is done. It was a massive failure financially. Don't think there is any need to look any further into it.
kingts Nov 25, 2023 @ 2:47pm 
Originally posted by bshock:
Midnight Suns work is done. It was a massive failure financially. Don't think there is any need to look any further into it.
Yeah, I didn't, nor did I speculate or give any details to something that may not happen. I merely posted a recent article of their interview. I was clear. Take it for what its worth.
"different projects"

I think he is working on other game now. MS is over.
Shadow♥ Nov 25, 2023 @ 5:36pm 
Shame because I really love this game. It is my favorite marvel game. I love the turn based strategic combat. I guess most casual gamer's do not like this type of combat and I assume that is why it did not do as well as they wanted it to do. My opinion of course. I do see many empty doors in the Abby and I am sure if the game did well they would have added even more characters. Sigh. would have loved that.
undeadpriest94 Nov 25, 2023 @ 7:15pm 
Originally posted by Shadow♥:
Shame because I really love this game. It is my favorite marvel game. I love the turn based strategic combat. I guess most casual gamer's do not like this type of combat and I assume that is why it did not do as well as they wanted it to do. My opinion of course. I do see many empty doors in the Abby and I am sure if the game did well they would have added even more characters. Sigh. would have loved that.
To be fair, it's a mix of a lot of different things: a superhero-themed tactical turn-based deck-building RPG with social sim and open-world exploration. It's a greatly divisive game, but I see it as a case where the people who aren't interested are just leaving it alone.
Dragon32 Nov 25, 2023 @ 7:18pm 
This is from a video (well worth watching the whole thing) uploaded earlier in the month:
"currently I am the game director on an unannounced project"
https://youtu.be/wrIHFzEnPPw?t=208
kingts Nov 26, 2023 @ 9:38am 
My son was done the minute the story was over. Minute they went all out in a story format. It must be supported. They had no end game, you were stuck simply redoing battles to peak deck constructs.

This does not mean, you cannot add additions in the future if you stick to the tactical application of the game. Minute you introduce additions to anything that has been done. You must alter a ton of the game, for example. I add 1 or 2 more CAP cards, a lot of animation, and combos with other character animations you have to add.
Any new character they add to the game demands a lot of coordinated programming and work with the other characters in the game. Unless they do a full expansion, even in the smallest form. It's a lot of work and it is very complex. The Base game is always there.
Firaxis and 2k let a lot of people go. Could a smaller team continue its development, sure, but you don't stay silent to that. You would release such news, even vaguely to maintain gamer interest, to keep them playing the game.

He was asked directly about Midnight Suns, not other games, not other projects. I don't' know how to read that very confusing answer. If there is nothing, you say no or we will see, but don't answer it in that manner.
What they have in mind, even if its remotely related to this game, may not be what the players want. Firaxis contract with Marvel is still active, whether simply for residual basis or to maintain the games patches. I do not see them doing a major expansion, no. Can they release something dumb, yep. We will see.

Take it for what it is. :Garrison:
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Dragon32 Nov 26, 2023 @ 10:13am 
I dunno though. The question was:
Q: So, what’s next for Midnight Suns? Will we see a mobile port in the future? And what’s next on the table for Firaxis Games?
And, to me, he answered the last question: Firaxis has some projects going on, not that there are a couple of Midnight Suns-related projects. Wish there were, of course.
kingts Nov 26, 2023 @ 10:23am 
Originally posted by Dragon32:
I dunno though. The question was:
Q: So, what’s next for Midnight Suns? Will we see a mobile port in the future? And what’s next on the table for Firaxis Games?
And, to me, he answered the last question: Firaxis has some projects going on, not that there are a couple of Midnight Suns-related projects. Wish there were, of course.

Yeah could be right Dragon, but I did not care for that answer. Here is the thing, I have been part of this industry a long time. The last thing you do is answer like that. Doesn't make any difference to me, we are done with the game. Has been unloaded for quite sometime.

You are doing something more with the game, You can say that. It inspires people to stay in the game, It builds fandom, it builds intrigue. Even if its as dumb as a Gold Collection Edition coming. That answer is as amateurish as I have ever seen. I would have chewed him out for such a bad answer like that. You do not piss off your customers or tease them ever. If MS is over, you say so. Won't make any difference in sales or anything else. Gamers are not stupid. They know when a game production is over. They do still have that contract and license. That part is not over.

However, I do think they are doing something, just may not be what everyone wants. Which sux, but that answer tells me they are releasing something. We know Civs 7 is coming, and another game, but when you are asked directly on MS, you give definitive answers.

But whatever, we will find out soon enough. Cheers my brothers. :dwarven:
Captain Worthy Nov 27, 2023 @ 12:53am 
He might have been forced to ignore the questions of Midnight Suns due to some stupid contractual reasons too, as it's Disney IP and thus they probably have some heavy marketing clauses in play.
Zertryx Nov 27, 2023 @ 4:47am 
this is just generic response pretty much every dev gives when they dont wanna reveal their next game.

TBH "we have a couple different projects in the works" is most likely X-Com 3
Eminem Nov 27, 2023 @ 7:22am 
Originally posted by Shadow♥:
Shame because I really love this game. It is my favorite marvel game. I love the turn based strategic combat. I guess most casual gamer's do not like this type of combat and I assume that is why it did not do as well as they wanted it to do. My opinion of course. I do see many empty doors in the Abby and I am sure if the game did well they would have added even more characters. Sigh. would have loved that.

the friendship grind was a bleh concept for a superhero game tho. The fights are great but the inbetween stuff should have been better thought out during the design phase.
Pie Eater Nov 27, 2023 @ 9:05am 
Hope they fired the writers first, going into their next project. The toilet water level, spergy reddit dialogue and social stuff is mind numbing in Midnight suns. It mars what is otherwise a really excellent basis for a Deck building Turn based game...
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blkbutterfly Nov 27, 2023 @ 11:58am 
Originally posted by Dragon32:
"currently I am the game director on an unannounced project"

TBH that sounds like Firaxis have moved on :steamsad:

Though the new CEO and then recent-ish layoffs incl. departure of Jake Solomon and Will Miller might suggest some reshuffling going on and re-prioritising (probably on Civ given that's Firaxis cash cow).

Maybe there is still a team to work on a Season 2? IDK
Rhalius Nov 28, 2023 @ 3:15pm 
And then suddenly they surprise us in the best way and the unannounced projects turn out to be:

-A full Midnight Suns expansion with new moves and costumes for all, new area in the Abbey to explore and some new heroes added, extends the end game by adding a new chapter.

-X-COM 3.

-Medieval Fantasy game using X-COM 2/3's mechanics where you recruit wizards, warriors, rogues, archers, dwarves and such who you can fully customise and name and who might die during their quests.

-X-Men spin off of Midnight Suns which uses the same gameplay but is fully focused on the X-Men where you get to create your own X-Man protagonist with a choice of very different movesets for added replayability.
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