Why they made Wolverine and Captain Marvel so bad?

[udtojan95]

He is so weak and his card's so useless. Why they made him like that? Wolverine should clearly get some buffed cards. Captain Marvel is also too weak and not the best character but still plenty better than Wolverine.

All other's are quite good and at least playable.

[itwillbefuntheysaid]

Wolverine is a beast, you are playing him wrong, probably without marks


Captain Marvel needs binary, so needs redraws, draw hero on KO, quick etc but works good with counter

[NiCKoiSeR]

Both are great as damage dealers, dont try to use them as tanks. That means they need somebody who mark enemies, generate heroism and apply buffs and debuffs, if the other two guys of your party can provide that to them they are beasts dealing damage.

Strange, Wolverine and somebody for mark enemies is a really good team because Strange offers more damage (Blessing of Vishanti and combo cards), vulnerable on enemies (Bands of Cyttorak) and you can apply conceal (Vapors of Valtoor) after taunting with wolverine attacks giving you a good defensive turn.

Cap Marvel, Scarlet Witch/Ironman and Magik/Light Hunter is also a good team providing a lot of card draw, heroism, debuffs and refunded card plays to Cap Marvel so she can do all the damage for free.

[kakita tatsumaru]

Almost same as itwillbefuntheysaid: Wolverine is all abour marks AND his ultimate is basically free because of it on top of being one of the most damaging move of the game. Wolverine with Dr Strange is also recommanded, as with Dr boost to damages per hit he becomes basically the best DPS of the game (also the reason why I don't like him, because I prefer characters which are optimal by themselves).

Captain Marvel is just plain bad, reason is that getting binary is both hard, and not that efficient, as lots of other characters do better than her in binary form without any special efforts. And her cards sucks hard, and none of her card do nice damage (which effectively waste binary). Besides that, she is also a tank, but it goes against the game philosophy of "killing everyone before they can retailate", which make her even worst.

[MrFKNS]

I don't know what your builds look like but she is my favorite tank and he wrecks mobs

[udtojan95]

Yeah but Captain Marvel and Wolverine are useless thanks compared to captain america. I dont know why they made both so bad. On ultimate 3 you rush through with Captain America regardless what your team mates are.

But with wolverine and Captain Marvel you need to choose wisely.

Iron Man, Hunter and Doctor Strange are OP characters too.
So i dont know why they made those two so bad.
All others are balanced. Except Hunter, Cap and Strange (and might Iron Man).

[wpegg]

Originally posted by udtojan95:

Yeah but Captain Marvel and Wolverine are useless thanks compared to captain america. I dont know why they made both so bad. On ultimate 3 you rush through with Captain America regardless what your team mates are.

But with wolverine and Captain Marvel you need to choose wisely.

Iron Man, Hunter and Doctor Strange are OP characters too.
So i dont know why they made those two so bad.
All others are balanced. Except Hunter, Cap and Strange (and might Iron Man).

Would be good to know how you've made them OP. Post your builds in the decks thread and we can try them out: https://steamcommunity.com/app/368260/discussions/0/3828663748252446215/

Maybe you can try a couple of the Cpt Marvel ones that are suggested.

[Peerless Girl]

Carol is an amazing tank, if you manipulate cards/draws such that she goes binary, and can maintain her block through redraws/regroup/the occasional Ironoak charm, etc. and can keep stuff taunted.

[Darth Siles]

Originally posted by udtojan95:

He is so weak and his card's so useless. Why they made him like that? Wolverine should clearly get some buffed cards. Captain Marvel is also too weak and not the best character but still plenty better than Wolverine.

All other's are quite good and at least playable.

Are we playing the same game?

I decided not to choose Wolverine a Capt. Marvel many times because i feel them a little bit overpowered...

The one i feel is bad is Captain America.

[Adrilz]

I didn't really like Wolverine at first, then I started to build him up simply because he was cool, just like I did Scarlet Witch, and now Wolverine is my top picks for missions. His Eviscerate is incredibly useful with 5 chains. His Skill Cards generate a ton of heroism and he can taunt enemies away from the weaker heroes. One of his skills also gives Weak on full combo, and another gives Wolverine Strengthened on full combo. He's incredibly useful.

[Adrilz]

Originally posted by Darth Siles:

Originally posted by udtojan95:

He is so weak and his card's so useless. Why they made him like that? Wolverine should clearly get some buffed cards. Captain Marvel is also too weak and not the best character but still plenty better than Wolverine.

All other's are quite good and at least playable.

Are we playing the same game?

I decided not to choose Wolverine a Capt. Marvel many times because i feel them a little bit overpowered...

The one i feel is bad is Captain America.

I like Captain America. I use him mainly for generating a ton of heroism while gaining a massive block, and taunt enemies away to him with Dig In skill. It even gives him counter which is extremely useful to hit as many enemies as possible. But this is also why I hate his Legendary Midnight Sun ability. I don't wanna consume his block.

[Darth Siles]

Originally posted by Adrilz:

Originally posted by Darth Siles:

Are we playing the same game?

I decided not to choose Wolverine a Capt. Marvel many times because i feel them a little bit overpowered...

The one i feel is bad is Captain America.

I like Captain America. I use him mainly for generating a ton of heroism while gaining a massive block, and taunt enemies away to him with Dig In skill. It even gives him counter which is extremely useful to hit as many enemies as possible. But this is also why I hate his Legendary Midnight Sun ability. I don't wanna consume his block.

Maybe that's my problem... i don't play "defense" ;)

[Dr. Best]

Originally posted by wpegg:

Would be good to know how you've made them OP. Post your builds in the decks thread and we can try them out: https://steamcommunity.com/app/368260/discussions/0/3828663748252446215/

Maybe you can try a couple of the Cpt Marvel ones that are suggested.

♥

Originally posted by Darth Siles:

Originally posted by Adrilz:

I like Captain America. I use him mainly for generating a ton of heroism while gaining a massive block, and taunt enemies away to him with Dig In skill. It even gives him counter which is extremely useful to hit as many enemies as possible. But this is also why I hate his Legendary Midnight Sun ability. I don't wanna consume his block.

Maybe that's my problem... i don't play "defense" ;)

It's not - you really don't "play defense" as in twiddling your thumbs and taking hits, just because you have durable heroes who can take it.
You should always go for as much damage as possible, but defensive heroes can actually help with that.

Many heroes have combos/synergies that can set up devastating damage - but they need 2-3 cards to make it happen. (e.g Iron Man/Nico/Blade)

On higher difficulties, you often don't have time to set up stuff freely - because what good does Nico's 10 heroism Crack the Sky next turn do you if two dogs K.O. her this turn?

So your hands are tied - you may like to make the awesome play, but need to take care of immediate threats instead.

Not only can Cap take those hits and allow your damage heroes to act freely - he does it while contributing to the fight - clearing out minions, generating heroism and drawing a bunch of cards while basically becoming invincible in the process.

Originally posted by Adrilz:

But this is also why I hate his Legendary Midnight Sun ability. I don't wanna consume his block.

Use it after playing The Best Defense - consume all his block to do insane damage - which in turn fills his block back up to maximum.

[Many-Named]

Originally posted by Darth Siles:

Originally posted by udtojan95:

He is so weak and his card's so useless. Why they made him like that? Wolverine should clearly get some buffed cards. Captain Marvel is also too weak and not the best character but still plenty better than Wolverine.

All other's are quite good and at least playable.

Are we playing the same game?

I decided not to choose Wolverine a Capt. Marvel many times because i feel them a little bit overpowered...

The one i feel is bad is Captain America.

rofl you can't be serious

[SpacePoon]

Game is actually jokingly easy on the highest difficulty. You can make any hero work.