Marvel's Midnight Suns

Marvel's Midnight Suns

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HummelAlt Mar 12, 2023 @ 2:44pm
Other games like this?
Dont have to be card games but turn based games like Midnight Suns? I already have Xcom, but I am looking for other things, since I am very new to the genre and have no clue.

I love this game I just wish balancing wasnt so horrible. Only Iron man, Dark Hunter and Strange are playable, the rest are just awful by design I feel like. Cant really use block or Bleed to your advantage if everyone calles in 3 new reinforcements and gets frenzy to oblivion, so you either go full damage or die to 15 attacks per round.
Last edited by HummelAlt; Mar 12, 2023 @ 2:46pm
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treahnurb Mar 13, 2023 @ 3:21am 
Originally posted by PrivateXTC:
Originally posted by thizycs:
Only Iron man, Dark Hunter and Strange are playable, the rest are just awful by design I feel like.

I've never used Strange unless I have to, I'm a light Hunter and only been using Iron Man when required.

I've managed the game fine with Hunter, Spiderman and Ghost Rider as my main.

So yeah, defo only your opinion.

Balance Hunter with zero light or darkness cards, Ghost Rider and Wolverine here and honestly, I think Ghost Rider is incredible broken. But maybe that's just my impression.
HummelAlt Mar 13, 2023 @ 3:31am 
Originally posted by PrivateXTC:
Originally posted by thizycs:
Only Iron man, Dark Hunter and Strange are playable, the rest are just awful by design I feel like.

I've never used Strange unless I have to, I'm a light Hunter and only been using Iron Man when required.

I've managed the game fine with Hunter, Spiderman and Ghost Rider as my main.

So yeah, defo only your opinion.

Yeah everyone I mention this to tells me this, but that doesnt disprove my point in all honestly. I am not trying to imply the game is borderline unplayable with other characters, I am just saying they are factually alot weaker by design. You are forced into aggressive play, bleed and block doesnt mean anything even though the tutorial really wants you to think otherwise. I am winning with other characters as well, but I have no reason to not pick Iron Man and Dr Strange, because that combo steamrolls.
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Jeebs Mar 13, 2023 @ 4:14am 
I think, what it boils down to is that every combo of characters requires you to adapt your strategy to make the most effective use of their strengths, and awareness of their weaknesses so you can prepare or compensate adequately.

I don't think any character is inherently bad or less effective than any other. To me it seems pretty well balanced on that front. That being said, different characters definitely lend themselves better to certain play-styles/strategies than others. Because of that, one player will see character X as being the most useful and character Y being underwhelming, while another player will find character Y is more useful than character X.
PrivateXTC Mar 13, 2023 @ 5:46am 
The only bad character I found was Deadpool. Couldn't make any use of him.

Spiderman is great because his opportunity card that is free to play when modded and his legendary free 3 card plays. Couple that with Ghost Riders Hellride and life stealing and it's great.

Iron Man and Blade are solid too. Air superiority with one bleed modded and the rest Blade handles because he's all about bleed.

The powerful play style combos are endless that's why the combat is solid.

I always keep Light Hunter in the roster as she's the best healer in the game.
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treahnurb Mar 13, 2023 @ 5:48am 
Originally posted by PrivateXTC:
The only bad character I found was Deadpool. Couldn't make any use of him.

.. and even Deadpool can be made useful. I can use him better than Nico, Magik or the two Captains and feel quite comfortable with him.

So yep, it all comes down to personal preferences and what people feel comfortable with.
Bourbon Kid Mar 13, 2023 @ 6:22am 
less story - more/pure gameplay:
Into the Breach - low price indie game, where combats are more treated like puzzles. Excelent!

The Last Spell - recently out of Early Access, combat like XCom with fantasy heroes fighting against waves of undead, Rain of Arrows, Explosive Spell, Shattering Sword Strikes. Fight, Survive, Die, Repeat

Battle Brother - high replayability, an unkown warband of mercenaries struggle to survive, looking for profit, get hired as bodyguards, defeat monstrous infections in towers, be evil and pillage villages or ambush a friendly caravan, reputation mirrors your actions, combat like XCom, Skill Tree, lots of Weapons with unique purpose. Treat your injries, or struggle as a cripple, worse die! Be prepared for the Big Whaagh, Undead famine or Realm Wars.

Wartales (Early Access) - same like Battle Brother. Graphics are 3D (BB is 2D art), same concept. A Mercanary warband struggling to survive, get fame, and money. harder ressource managment. Thirst, hunger/satuartion, weekly payments. a light story to pursuit, but doesnt pusnish when you turtle/idle. XCom like combat
HummelAlt Mar 13, 2023 @ 6:41am 
Originally posted by PrivateXTC:
The only bad character I found was Deadpool. Couldn't make any use of him.

Spiderman is great because his opportunity card that is free to play when modded and his legendary free 3 card plays. Couple that with Ghost Riders Hellride and life stealing and it's great.

Very interesting take. Personally I think Spider-Man is the weakest next to Blade and Deadpool one of the stronger ones.
SparksV Mar 13, 2023 @ 2:57pm 
Pyre is not turn based but has the same Exploration / Relationships / Combat loop and RPG mechanics. Very underrated game.

Invisible Inc, turn based, more like a spy themed xcom-like with a lot of replay value.
Jeebs Mar 13, 2023 @ 3:04pm 
Originally posted by thizycs:
Originally posted by PrivateXTC:
The only bad character I found was Deadpool. Couldn't make any use of him.

Spiderman is great because his opportunity card that is free to play when modded and his legendary free 3 card plays. Couple that with Ghost Riders Hellride and life stealing and it's great.

Very interesting take. Personally I think Spider-Man is the weakest next to Blade and Deadpool one of the stronger ones.

Hence why I said that the usefulness of a character is going to vary from player to player based on their preferred way of approaching battle. If you have a specific style/strategy you like, then you'll naturally prefer characters that work well with that and find little use for those that don't.

If you're fairly adaptable and can change your strategy based on the characters you're using (I like to experiment) you start to see that pretty much all the characters can be pretty effective in their own rights. You just have to learn how to play to their strengths and compensate for their weaknesses.

A lot of the characters give you a fair bit of versatility in how you build their deck. The fact that you can pick and choose their skills gives you a ton of variety in what they can do. Whether you want them as pure offense, pure support or somewhere in-between, part of the fun for me is building up their decks and refining it as I go along to make them more effective.

For example, I've been using Magik a lot in my current playthrough. At first I thought her portal skill seemed kind of useless or only situationally useful, but it's now become one of her most powerful gimmicks.

I use Limbo's Grasp, which damages any enemy knocked through a portal for the rest of the battle, and it's upgraded which lets me place a portal when I use it. Any knockback attack by Magik will then launch them through that portal (works with the move action knockbacks too). I strategically make use of this to herd enemies together while softening them up, then follow-up with an area attack and take out as many as possible in one shot.

Magik's passive ability also gives her attacks a chance to put a portal card in my hand (and portals are free to use) so I can often keep going like this for as many card-plays I have. It's obscenely effective.

I definitely look forward to a few more play-throughs where I will experiment with other characters and strategies, or perhaps build them a different way. Also, apologies for the wall of text, I got a little carried away there.
undeadpriest94 Mar 13, 2023 @ 3:37pm 
If you're looking for a similar game, there's the upcoming Capes which is more like XCOM in mechanics and has a setting mixing The Boys, Bomb Queen and Marvel's Dark Reign.
˹FPS˼ Night Mar 14, 2023 @ 10:31pm 
Expeditions Rome is a fantastic recommendation.
Arcturus Asriv Mar 23, 2023 @ 7:19am 
Not a video game, but a TTRPG:

Five Parsecs From Home has a similar structure as Midnight Suns.

In FPFH, you have three phases of each campaign turn.
1. The pre-combat phase, where you're doing things in town, getting prepared, buying equipment or training.
2. The combat phase, which is done with miniatures in a turn-based skirmish.
3. The post-combat phase where you resolve the results of the combat, have personal character subplot events, and campaign events.
Then it cycles back to 1.

Midnight Suns has the same structure.
1. Morning (pre-combat), where you research, train and do some exploring.
2. Combat, where you choose one of the available missions and go to a turn-based skirmish.
3. Night (post-combat), where you advance narratives/friendships with those that went on the mission, maybe do an Emo Kids get together, or an Agatha quest, or do some more exploration.

Five Parsecs is a solo skirmish rpg, meaning you play it by yourself (just like a video game).
It's a sci-fi setting. However, there is a fantasy setting also, called Five Leagues from the Borderlands.
In both, you control a party of characters as they take on jobs and progress in a campaign narrative.
HummelAlt Mar 23, 2023 @ 9:12am 
Five Parsecs sounds great, but I have unfortunately no nerdy friends.
WollnirYT Mar 23, 2023 @ 10:59am 
Disciples 2, Disciples 3 and Disciples: Liberation
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Arcturus Asriv Mar 23, 2023 @ 5:36pm 
Originally posted by thizycs:
Five Parsecs sounds great, but I have unfortunately no nerdy friends.

It's solo play. You don't need friends. :-)
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