Anti-Cheat Software in a single player game.

[DarkWaterSong]

BIG UPDATE:
Ok after testing there are a couple ways to get the game working with Aurora from Cheathappens, No hacking, but you have to load the trainer first and then load the game via Aurora or via right clicking on the steam icon. If you run it via the play button in the steam UI, you get the message about "A program used for game exploration..."

Also I cannot get any of the hot keys to work, so I am having to Alt+Tab to turn on and off options or use the phone app to activate the trainer and turn any options on. Finally if you close the trainer while in the game, Midnight Suns crashes.

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I use a trainer to max things like credits if a game does not have a dev console I can use. Normally I do this on my 2nd or 3rd play through or if I am REALLY getting stuck on easy.
Problem is I have so many games, that if I went for hard on all of them I would never finish the story. Also I NEVER cheat on anything that goes multiplayer.

Well this "feature" just got added to a single player game. Note I can get this with 2 mod managers, a trainer manger, and several other pieces of software just running in the background....not even activated and touching the game. Just them being in RAM is enough to trigger the game to quit with the message:

https://imgur.com/sR1FLgl

EDIT And to be clear, the game closes if detects software I use to mod Skyrim. I have never used the software to touch this game, but it still sees it running an update to a mod for another game and triggers. Now there is software from cheathappens I used on this game, and that is also triggering it closing with the error. But it is also a manager for cheats for other games, and if I completely disable the cheat for Midnight Suns....the game still sees it.

[Metal Izanagi]

WTF?

[J'thulhu]

With the randomized skill upgrades and constant need to grind multiple types of resources, it definitely feels like this game is designed to be heavily monetized through currency purchases. We haven't seen it yet, but I guarantee it's coming if they have this type of anti-modding software.

[Orion The Hunter]

I actually wrote about this yesterday when I posted a review of this mess of a game. I still can't believe they added an anti cheat to a single player game. This is got to be the funniest thing I have ever encountered in any video game to date.

[MrJane]

It quite ridiculous. If I buy a single player game I should be able to play it how I want to. Pisses me off.

[KirGeo]

This is messed up. Let people do what they want with their single player game.

[Orion The Hunter]

Originally posted by MrJane:

It quite ridiculous. If I buy a single player game I should be able to play it how I want to. Pisses me off.

!00% agreed. Who exactly am I going to hurt cheating while playing completely solo on a single player game? I have never heard of such thing before this game.

[blaque_czar]

Sheesh, I'm glad I went ham on all the cheats, no fracking way I'm doing NG+ now. Chances of a Workshop function are next to NIL.

[Danceofmasks]

Y'all are forgetting that this is a single-player game with microtransactions.
That's the difference.
If they can't prevent you from cheating in the content, how are they going to charge you for it?

[Rodi]

Originally posted by Danceofmasks:

Y'all are forgetting that this is a single-player game with microtransactions.
That's the difference.
If they can't prevent you from cheating in the content, how are they going to charge you for it?

This.
From what I read, the game was initially intended to have a lot of pay to win options, but after being criticized a lot, they decided to take a more "cosmetic only" approach with microtransactions. Since the anti-cheat was already there, they probably kept it to leave room for the originallly intended pay to win microtransactions in the future.
The horrible system to mod cards clearly shows that they wanted to sell crafting resources with microtransactions.

[DarkWaterSong]

Originally posted by Danceofmasks:

Y'all are forgetting that this is a single-player game with microtransactions.
That's the difference.
If they can't prevent you from cheating in the content, how are they going to charge you for it?

Or you buy the season pass, and get everything the micro transactions get you. I did.

Also it only applies to skins, and I was using it only for the in game currencies for things like furniture and unlock-able cosmetics....the stuff you cannot pay real world money for.

[Dragon32]

I bet that's Denuvo Anti-Tamper, it's mentioned as used on the game's Store page. Anti-Tamper's purpose is to stop use of debugging tools (like IDA or whatever) and your trainer programs probably mess around with values in RAM so they're seen as analogous and blocked.

Wait until Denuvo is removed, if it ever is. It's used to protect whatever DRM a game ships with (Steam's in this case) and in some cases gets removed after a few weeks when the peak of piracy has passed.

[John J. Sheridan "The Nexus"]

Haha... well that make Paradox the better Publisher^^ Yes you have to buy many DLC but Workshop is on and Cheats also^^

[Many-Named]

denuvo and yeah they need to secure their currency so that the pigeons can buy it

[RasaNova]

Originally posted by Rodi:

Originally posted by Danceofmasks:

Y'all are forgetting that this is a single-player game with microtransactions.
That's the difference.
If they can't prevent you from cheating in the content, how are they going to charge you for it?

This.
From what I read, the game was initially intended to have a lot of pay to win options, but after being criticized a lot, they decided to take a more "cosmetic only" approach with microtransactions. Since the anti-cheat was already there, they probably kept it to leave room for the originallly intended pay to win microtransactions in the future.
The horrible system to mod cards clearly shows that they wanted to sell crafting resources with microtransactions.

Just curious if you have a link? I've only seen that speculated here on the forum, haven't seen anything in any of the interviews etc indicating that there was a bunch of p2w stuff planned.

But honestly yeah they should have just put the DLC skins for individual sale on the market instead of the stupid premium currency. Spending real money for pretend money never looks good.

[Sir_Sephy]