Suggestions about Charlie card.

[Bryxia]

After finishing the game, I feel like Charlie card is really underwhelming.

It costs 4 Heroism and 1 AP to bloat your deck with 8 mediocre cards, draw 2 of them and add a dead body on the board.

In the meantime, for the same costs, we can damage and forcefully knockback everybody in an area...

On the multiple way to improve the Charlie card, I think a mark everything might be interesting. Or maybe make the Bite card quick.

What is your feelings about this card ?

[Macsen]

Used it once and never again; totally underwhelming

[Zebedee]

I'd not take it over Bladestorm. I'd certainly not take it over Annihilation. As you both say already, it doesn't work so great even if a nice idea. I think Charlie suffers in particular because there's no way to tailor her deck and even upgrading it is limited. The AoE mark is fine but Scarlet Witch can do it for free (mod) so....

[Giblix]

I agree. The impression I got is that Charlie was made with the four trials in mind. There she can mark a group of enemies. In that setup she works really well. Then they forgot the re-balance Charlie when in group play as a summon. Her "Mark" card is only 2 in her deck and will rarely appear when there are 3 other hero decks in contention for card draws.

In short....everything that makes Charlie somewhat useful is severely diminished. Thus not making it worthwhile to summon her. All they have to do is make those "Mark" cards a guarantee appearance in your hand upon summoning Charlie. As well as making that first one free of use. This will allow Charlie to hit the ground running for such a high cost card.

It'll also add clutch tactical plays for such a high cost card, adding some drama to the combat scenario. The function will be similar to those Assault Hydra missions where you get mission cards that allow you to prolong a round. 2 plays left? don't worry. Summon charlie, apply mark and use the big damaging cards to take out some weakened opponents as a clutch play. That would be nice for a 4 cost card. Now there are simply to many other worthwhile options that far out perform Charlie.

[小龙马]

As much as I love Dogs and how cool Charlie is(especially when she transform....i go "hell yeah....!!!"), the card is indeed underwhleming....much....

For the love of dog, I still keep it in my deck though and will use it as long as i am not in a dire situation, but yeah, i think the card should be buffed.

-Lower heroism cost (as the relationship with her grows, will require less heroism maybe?)
-Increased duration(maybe with condition eg. extend 1 round [max once per turn] if she makes a kill)
-more of her action cards and let us edit her deck, and modify her card (Cards of "Summon Charlie" card....Cardception?)
-Or maybe.....even better, make her become a unit as her own.....that will be absolutely awesomeeeeeeeee.................

P/S: oh ya, my profile pic, though irrelevant, just wanna introduce my princess....she is my "Chieko" Girl, the chow chow....<3 <3 <3

[Danceofmasks]

How about this for a fix?
You get 3 actions 'cos 3 characters (sorta), right?
Summon Charlie, you get +1 card plays while she's on the field.

[Bryxia]

Originally posted by Danceofmasks:

How about this for a fix?
You get 3 actions 'cos 3 characters (sorta), right?
Summon Charlie, you get +1 card plays while she's on the field.

+1 Action is really a good idea.

But, the fact that Charlie's deck is mediocre and not modable, I don't know if the card would be preferred over Bladestorm...
One of the multiple issue of Charlie is the fact that it's a legendary card that have to compete with Bladestorm or Annihilation, and it need to have a similar power push to be useable...

[Xionor]

The card is mathematically speaking a detriment to your deck because:
1. It requires you an action and 4 heroic points just to summon her.
2. Her cards can't be modded.
3. The only thing she is good at is clearing the 1hp enemies but this requires a lot of perfect rng to pull off as you have to draw howl first and then bite after bite to do so. Why would anyone do that when they have other aoe options that only cost 1 action instead of two.
4. All her cards are inferior or at best equal to other hero cards.
5. Not all of her cards are upgraded even on max level.

I can't understand how a team of developers thought this is balanced.
I hope they change it as this is a legendary card which makes the bad balance especially painful.

[Bryxia]

Originally posted by Xionor:

The card is mathematically speaking a detriment to your deck.

Depending on what redraw mod you happen to get on the card, I can see, at least..., one or two use case. ^^
But like I said earlier, how can this card compete with Bladestorm...

[Peerless Girl]

Part of the problem with these types of cards (Charlie's and Magik's "Reinforcement" card) is you end up with 4 heroes on the field, and they're all competing for card draws, which can result in some sub-optimal situations.

[Mysteria]

For both those cards, I always felt like they should at least draw some aggro away from the team with a taunt mechanic. They’re only there temporarily any way, so I might as well use up their hp pool and at the same time mitigate actual team damage. As it is, they never even got targeted the few times I used those cards

[Peerless Girl]

if you could customize charlie's cards (like adding taunt mods) it would help a lot.

[Nazkai]

Agree that this card possibly Magk's reinforcements card and Wanda overall but especially her Legendary need some buffing

[TheoreticalString]

Yeah, the card should give you +1 Action while Charlie is on the field, that'd be cool.

It's mostly a meme card.

[Cat]

Ability to mod her cards or at least upgrade her deck would go a long way to make it less useless, a +1 draw while she's summoned would also be a nice way to make it worth playing (especially since far as I know only Strange can add card draws), but even then she competes with two far better ultimate cards and quite frankly her card shouldn't be ultimate for what you get. It's a shame since I like Charlie and I would have liked to use her more in general outside of the trials, but she doesn't scale well on higher difficulties and her summon card just bloats your deck with mostly useless cards.