Marvel's Midnight Suns

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skill issue Dec 28, 2022 @ 11:26am
need some marvel expert
is this same Agatha? as in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY9T9qvI008

why is she villain in this show?
Last edited by skill issue; Dec 28, 2022 @ 11:27am
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You could say they are doppelgangers from different universes, and indeed, not all Agatha Harknesses are always 100% Lawful Good. I don't remember all the events from the show clearly, but Wanda wasn't on the side of angels either, and there was this rumor going around that Agatha would get her own show eventually.
Last edited by Legendary Mr. Tiddles; Dec 28, 2022 @ 11:45am
RasaNova Dec 28, 2022 @ 11:46am 
Same Agatha, but think of it as MCU Agatha vs Comics Agatha. And as I recall, the version from the show did leave things open for a bit of overlap with the past & future comic version and vice versa.

Oh and much like every other hero the backstory has been tweaked in the game.
Last edited by RasaNova; Dec 28, 2022 @ 11:47am
Niliu Dec 28, 2022 @ 12:22pm 
Originally posted by cerokyn:
is this same Agatha? as in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY9T9qvI008

why is she villain in this show?

To put it simply, she had the Darkhold. No one can withstand the Darkhold's evil. What it wants varies from universe to universe, but in each, it is a book that will forever taint the user, such as Dr. Strange's new eye.
Cutlass Jack Dec 28, 2022 @ 12:34pm 
Its the same Agatha, just a different version than both the MCU move version and the Comics version. Though she's closer to the comic version.
Jorone Dec 28, 2022 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by Niliu:
Originally posted by cerokyn:
is this same Agatha? as in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY9T9qvI008

why is she villain in this show?

To put it simply, she had the Darkhold. No one can withstand the Darkhold's evil. What it wants varies from universe to universe, but in each, it is a book that will forever taint the user, such as Dr. Strange's new eye.
everyone here is basically right, but this is probably the best explanation in differences, Agatha in the MCU had the darkhold which if you have seen doctor strange multiverse of madness, you will see it can influence even some of the strongest people. But MCU and comics have always have had differences, and there are always a ♥♥♥♥ ton of different takes on all sorts of characters in the comics
skill issue Dec 28, 2022 @ 1:12pm 
thanks guys. i never read any comics. and im very confused how much stuff there even for same character.
Renée DeLait Dec 28, 2022 @ 1:26pm 
If you really want to talk Agatha, I'm not even 100% about her being a villain in the show. Corrupted somewhat, yes, but she does state that her aim is to prevent the prophecy of the world's destruction coming true. She's the antagonist to SW, but realistically the villain is Wanda herself.
skill issue Dec 28, 2022 @ 1:30pm 
i dont remember much this show. i just saw randomly in news, that there is a new show about Agatha in production, and it came very familiar
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Captain Worthy Dec 28, 2022 @ 2:21pm 
Originally posted by cerokyn:
thanks guys. i never read any comics. and im very confused how much stuff there even for same character.

Yes, these characters have decades of stories in the comic books and Agatha is no exception. She had her first appearance in 1970 and played a big role in the Fantastic Four comics of that era, later on taking Wanda as her apprentice.

The Agatha in this game is based on that comic book version, and not on the Agatha of the MCU.
wm_gg82 Dec 28, 2022 @ 3:24pm 
Originally posted by cerokyn:
thanks guys. i never read any comics. and im very confused how much stuff there even for same character.

One way to look at it is if you're familiar with Transformers.

Optimus Prime from the Michael Bay Movies, Optimus Prime from the 2020 Transformers Cyberverse cartoon, Optimus Prime from Transformers Prime and Optimus Prime from the 80s cartoon are all separate versions from different universes. They share the name and some aspects (e.g. traditionally transform into red trucks, in robot mode the windscreen windows wind up on the chest), but they can also differ wildly in history and personality (e.g. Movie Optimus is a bit more bloodthirsty than the others, Optimus from the 80s was a dock-worker while Optimus from TF Prime was a librarian).

The characters in this game seem more based on their comic versions than the MCU versions. This is also why some people really don't like Iron Man in this game, because he's apparently supposed to be a version of comic Tony Stark and yet acts like MCU Tony Stark.
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