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TheTrain Dec 5, 2022 @ 5:07am
Denuvo Anti-tamper, 5 machine activation limit
What does this mean? If I change my mobo, or something else, i'll lose access to the game after 5 times? Are we back to 2007 DRM?
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DrkCntry Dec 5, 2022 @ 5:27am 
No. At worst if you somehow change enough of your system to warrant it to use one of the flags, you get locked out for 24 hours. It's no different than Windows activation, and the chances of you doing enough to your system to cause you to have to reactivate is slim.
TheTrain Dec 5, 2022 @ 5:36am 
Originally posted by DrkCntry:
No. At worst if you somehow change enough of your system to warrant it to use one of the flags, you get locked out for 24 hours. It's no different than Windows activation, and the chances of you doing enough to your system to cause you to have to reactivate is slim.

Its written somewher or its a tale that we are spreading around for some reason? Is there an EULA or something about it? What are the devs saying?
Because that's what its written on the steam page of the game:

Denuvo Anti-tamper, 5 machine activation limit

This doesn't bode well, at all, with what you're saying.
Last edited by TheTrain; Dec 5, 2022 @ 5:40am
DrkCntry Dec 5, 2022 @ 5:54am 
Originally posted by TheTrain:
Originally posted by DrkCntry:
No. At worst if you somehow change enough of your system to warrant it to use one of the flags, you get locked out for 24 hours. It's no different than Windows activation, and the chances of you doing enough to your system to cause you to have to reactivate is slim.

Its written somewher or its a tale that we are spreading around for some reason? Is there an EULA or something about it? What are the devs saying?
Because that's what its written on the steam page of the game:

Denuvo Anti-tamper, 5 machine activation limit

This doesn't bode well, at all, with what you're saying.
What doesn't bode well, that you have 5 activations every 24 hours or that you seem to not understand what is being stated here?

As I said, the chances of you doing enough to your system at one time to use up all 5 of your activations in 24 hours is pretty small.
TheTrain Dec 5, 2022 @ 5:56am 
Originally posted by DrkCntry:
Originally posted by TheTrain:

Its written somewher or its a tale that we are spreading around for some reason? Is there an EULA or something about it? What are the devs saying?
Because that's what its written on the steam page of the game:

Denuvo Anti-tamper, 5 machine activation limit

This doesn't bode well, at all, with what you're saying.
What doesn't bode well, that you have 5 activations every 24 hours or that you seem to not understand what is being stated here?

As I said, the chances of you doing enough to your system at one time to use up all 5 of your activations in 24 hours is pretty small.
Where its written that its a 24h limit? That's what I'm asking, where does that come from?

And i don't want even talk about the fact that what I do with my system is my and only mine concern.
Last edited by TheTrain; Dec 5, 2022 @ 5:57am
DrkCntry Dec 5, 2022 @ 5:59am 
Originally posted by TheTrain:
Originally posted by DrkCntry:
What doesn't bode well, that you have 5 activations every 24 hours or that you seem to not understand what is being stated here?

As I said, the chances of you doing enough to your system at one time to use up all 5 of your activations in 24 hours is pretty small.
Where its written that its a 24h limit? That's what I'm asking, where does that come from?
It comes from experience. Denuvo's activations are over a 24 hour period, you get 5 a day, use them up, you have to wait a day to get 5 more back.
TheTrain Dec 5, 2022 @ 6:07am 
Originally posted by DrkCntry:
Originally posted by TheTrain:
Where its written that its a 24h limit? That's what I'm asking, where does that come from?
It comes from experience. Denuvo's activations are over a 24 hour period, you get 5 a day, use them up, you have to wait a day to get 5 more back.
Experience has no value mate, its business. I'm asking for information, if you don't have any just don't spread misinformation. I don't take anything for granted in this day and age, i'm looking for an official confirmation of what is the limit with this Denuvo implementation, simple as that.
Whenever there is a 24h limit, its well specified on the steam page. Here is not, that's why I'm asking for an official stance about this
Last edited by TheTrain; Dec 5, 2022 @ 6:09am
DrkCntry Dec 5, 2022 @ 6:22am 
Originally posted by TheTrain:
Originally posted by DrkCntry:
It comes from experience. Denuvo's activations are over a 24 hour period, you get 5 a day, use them up, you have to wait a day to get 5 more back.
Experience has no value mate, its business. I'm asking for information, if you don't have any just don't spread misinformation. I don't take anything for granted in this day and age, i'm looking for an official confirmation of what is the limit with this Denuvo implementation, simple as that.
Whenever there is a 24h limit, its well specified on the steam page. Here is not, that's why I'm asking for an official stance about this
Misinformation...that's rich...

Look, I've told you the policy of Denuvo's activations, if you don't want to believe it, fine..

I mean, how hard is it to type into Google a search? Let's find out....

www.google.com/search?q=What+is+Denuvo+5+machine+activation+limit
Atumaat Dec 5, 2022 @ 6:29am 
Originally posted by TheTrain:
Originally posted by DrkCntry:
What doesn't bode well, that you have 5 activations every 24 hours or that you seem to not understand what is being stated here?

As I said, the chances of you doing enough to your system at one time to use up all 5 of your activations in 24 hours is pretty small.
Where its written that its a 24h limit? That's what I'm asking, where does that come from?

And i don't want even talk about the fact that what I do with my system is my and only mine concern.


Imagine being this far up your own bum. "Everything I assume is true unless you can hand guide me to proof, and I'll whine about it instead of using Google."

This Train guy is dead wrong, and VERY stubborn about it. Lol city.
TheTrain Dec 5, 2022 @ 6:29am 
Originally posted by DrkCntry:
Originally posted by TheTrain:
Experience has no value mate, its business. I'm asking for information, if you don't have any just don't spread misinformation. I don't take anything for granted in this day and age, i'm looking for an official confirmation of what is the limit with this Denuvo implementation, simple as that.
Whenever there is a 24h limit, its well specified on the steam page. Here is not, that's why I'm asking for an official stance about this
Misinformation...that's rich...

Look, I've told you the policy of Denuvo's activations, if you don't want to believe it, fine..

I mean, how hard is it to type into Google a search? Let's find out....

www.google.com/search?q=What+is+Denuvo+5+machine+activation+limit
Sorry but what is your problem exactly? Why asking for an official confirmation about this bother you? What's your benefit if everything is keeped as shady as it is?
DrkCntry Dec 5, 2022 @ 6:35am 
Originally posted by TheTrain:
Originally posted by DrkCntry:
Misinformation...that's rich...

Look, I've told you the policy of Denuvo's activations, if you don't want to believe it, fine..

I mean, how hard is it to type into Google a search? Let's find out....

www.google.com/search?q=What+is+Denuvo+5+machine+activation+limit
Sorry but what is your problem exactly? Why asking for an official confirmation about this bother you? What's your benefit if everything is keeped as shady as it is?
My problem? It's when people seemingly go out of their way to make things difficult just to be difficult.

In the amount of time it took you to start this thread you could've simply googled it, but instead you decided to post it anyways and then decided that because you didn't like the answer someone gave you you decided to call it misinformation and stomp your feet about it.
TheTrain Dec 5, 2022 @ 6:40am 
Originally posted by DrkCntry:
Originally posted by TheTrain:
Sorry but what is your problem exactly? Why asking for an official confirmation about this bother you? What's your benefit if everything is keeped as shady as it is?
My problem? It's when people seemingly go out of their way to make things difficult just to be difficult.

In the amount of time it took you to start this thread you could've simply googled it, but instead you decided to post it anyways and then decided that because you didn't like the answer someone gave you you decided to call it misinformation and stomp your feet about it.
Thanks for nothing I guess, your google search lead nowhere as its still based on direct experience and nothing more
Now you can move on, thank you
If you're interested, not even the EULA of the game states anything about the anti tamper that's being used. But I guess that's not a problem for you, so whatever
Last edited by TheTrain; Dec 5, 2022 @ 6:42am
'Strict Dec 5, 2022 @ 6:42am 
Originally posted by TheTrain:
Originally posted by DrkCntry:
Misinformation...that's rich...

Look, I've told you the policy of Denuvo's activations, if you don't want to believe it, fine..

I mean, how hard is it to type into Google a search? Let's find out....

www.google.com/search?q=What+is+Denuvo+5+machine+activation+limit
Sorry but what is your problem exactly? Why asking for an official confirmation about this bother you? What's your benefit if everything is keeped as shady as it is?


Do you think you'd get a Denuvo representative to come here and give you an official response? or what kind of official confirmation can we give you that a google search would give you differently?

I mean since you don't seem to believe the people responding....
TheTrain Dec 5, 2022 @ 6:44am 
Originally posted by 'Strict:
Originally posted by TheTrain:
Sorry but what is your problem exactly? Why asking for an official confirmation about this bother you? What's your benefit if everything is keeped as shady as it is?


Do you think you'd get a Denuvo representative to come here and give you an official response? or what kind of official confirmation can we give you that a google search would give you differently?

I mean since you don't seem to believe the people responding....

I mean, a dev could respond. Someone working for the publisher itself, the same guy that opened this steam page, EULA of the game (Even that doesn't talk about the anti tamper used), whatever. There are million of official way we could get an answer about this.
I don't think I'm asking for anything out of this world tbh, what's wrong with having more information about a subject like this? For you, or for anyone else, it could be nothing, I value things differently I guess. Again, what's the problem with this?
Last edited by TheTrain; Dec 5, 2022 @ 6:51am
Devil Dog Dec 5, 2022 @ 6:45am 
Originally posted by TheTrain:
Sorry but what is your problem exactly? Why asking for an official confirmation about this bother you? What's your benefit if everything is keeped as shady as it is?

They bought the game bro. And you're probably one of the few that actually asked about this before buying. Comically and ironically Callisto Protocol, with the same goofy setup, is worse even after their most recent patch.

All this shows is how crap and desperate 2k has become - first it was their useless and system hog of a launcher added to even years old games, now it's this goofy drm crap. Considering the lackluster reviews for this game - even most "positive" reviews mention how poorly it's optimized and the dialog is cringe - they just might rethink adding all this overhead in future games.
LordAnorak Dec 5, 2022 @ 6:45am 
Originally posted by TheTrain:
Originally posted by DrkCntry:
Misinformation...that's rich...

Look, I've told you the policy of Denuvo's activations, if you don't want to believe it, fine..

I mean, how hard is it to type into Google a search? Let's find out....

www.google.com/search?q=What+is+Denuvo+5+machine+activation+limit
Sorry but what is your problem exactly? Why asking for an official confirmation about this bother you? What's your benefit if everything is keeped as shady as it is?
It's something that's been known for literally years at this point. The fact that YOU couldn't be bothered to do your own research is quite telling as to the type of person you are.
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