Marvel's Midnight Suns

Marvel's Midnight Suns

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F A B L E D Nov 6, 2022 @ 11:46am
Which Edition did you buy and why?
There are many reasons why one might spend an extra buck on something more then the vanilla edition of a game. And when it comes to this game, what lead us to our decisions this time?

First off, i bought the Legendary Edition. I can't really say I'm 100% sold on this game, i still feel oddly on the fence about it to be honest. But this studio has kept on delivering some of the best games I've played in my entire life the past decade, so i give them the benefit of the doubt. Should it for some reason have massive issues or be downright a bad game at launch, i can always just refund.

But i feel that whenever a studio keeps on delivering the goods, it's worth paying for. I didn't even really give the extra stuff i get from this edition much consideration, i just want a really good game. And if i spend 500+ hours in this game as i have with both XCOM 1&2, it's really a bargain to be honest.

I'm very optimistic about the game, but not entirely convinced, the impression i have from interviews and gameplay trailers is that they should've just made XCOM 3, but on the other hand, since the creative decisions are in the hands of Jake Solomon and not some suit at the top floor in the marvel HQ, i have my enthusiasm uplifted.
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dq_177 Nov 6, 2022 @ 12:03pm 
If you are on the fence you shouldn't be preordering the game. The smart idea would be to wait to see how things pan out and buy the game on sale.
F A B L E D Nov 6, 2022 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by dq_177:
If you are on the fence you shouldn't be preordering the game. The smart idea would be to wait to see how things pan out and buy the game on sale.

Not really. You can test the game for 2 hours and then you can refund if it doesn't feel right. Or if it turns out you really like the game, you have just bought a game you like. Either way, there are no issues pre-ordering a title. I trust in these devs, and hope they convince me they have a new franchise going that will keep me occupied in the future.
BaconX Nov 6, 2022 @ 3:17pm 
Originally posted by F A B L E D:
the impression i have from interviews and gameplay trailers is that they should've just made XCOM 3

None of the interview I saw gave me that impression. Almost all of them had Jake saying that they tried to emulate the XCOM combat into this game, but it just didn't work so they went with a different approach. That doesn't mean to me that they wanted to make XCOM 3, just using something they're familiar with in a new project that ultimately didn't panned out.

Developers are capable of going outside of their comfort zone, and this is what I see from Firaxis. They're looking to games like Slay the Spire for inspiration (one of the best card game on the market) and likely other tactics game for the movement, so at least you know they're going in the right direction.

I also preordered the Legendary edition just to support Firaxis because even without the DLCs, I know there will be enough contents to last me a very long time because this game is built on replayability with different heroes composition.
Last edited by BaconX; Nov 6, 2022 @ 3:18pm
F A B L E D Nov 6, 2022 @ 4:02pm 
Should have, is not the same as wanted to.
BaconX Nov 6, 2022 @ 4:39pm 
Originally posted by F A B L E D:
Should have, is not the same as wanted to.

Then that's even further from the truth since in all their interview, they seemed very eager to take on this new Marvel project and this new tactical card system. I didn't get any impression from their interviews that they should have made anything other than the game they're making right now.
BaconX Nov 6, 2022 @ 5:20pm 
Originally posted by F A B L E D:
Originally posted by BaconX:

Then that's even further from the truth since in all their interview, they seemed very eager to take on this new Marvel project and this new tactical card system. I didn't get any impression from their interviews that they should have made anything other than the game they're making right now.

You do understand that should have is a personal opinion right? I personally wanted another XCOM way more than Midnight Suns. But, the game might be really good, we'll see.

I'm just giving my opinion then that those interview gave me no such impression, so I was just refuting your claim regarding the interview, not your opinion on the matter of wanting another XCOM.

I want another XCOM also, but at the moment, Firaxis seems really enthuse and confident about this game. I trust in their ability to provide a quality experience, even if it's outside of their comfort zone.
Andil Nov 7, 2022 @ 1:51am 
I also purchased the legendary edition. Every showcases and livestreams convinced me this game will be awesome, i want to support Firaxis 100%. I know that i will play hundred of hours.
The only fear i got, for now, is that the game will be too easy, or at least too simple and quick. I'll explain myself: Jake said in a livestream that each fight won't last more that 5 or 6 turns. That looks really short to apply a reliable strategy, in 5 or 6 turns it seems you can't even go through your deck once. In a way, it tends to make the game more a puzzle game than a deckbuilder, but maybe at the cost of the difficulty (which is a good thing to help the A-RPG fan trying the game...).
Anyway, it's pure speculation.
I'm so hyped, i can't wait.
westleylives Nov 7, 2022 @ 2:20am 
Originally posted by Andil:
The only fear i got, for now, is that the game will be too easy, or at least too simple and quick. I'll explain myself: Jake said in a livestream that each fight won't last more that 5 or 6 turns. That looks really short to apply a reliable strategy, in 5 or 6 turns it seems you can't even go through your deck once. In a way, it tends to make the game more a puzzle game than a deckbuilder, but maybe at the cost of the difficulty (which is a good thing to help the A-RPG fan trying the game...).

You'll play 3 cards per turn (more with Free cards and Quick cards), plus you get redraws, so you'll see a whole 24 card deck pretty quickly.

Even taking a very conservative assumption of only 3 cards played per turn gives the below:

T1: 6 cards +2 redraws = 8 cards seen.
T2: 8+3 (new cards replacing those played last turn) +2 (redraws) = 13
T3: 13+3+2=18
T4: 18+3+2=23
T5: 23+3+2=28
T6: 28+3+2=33.
BaconX Nov 7, 2022 @ 8:24am 
Originally posted by Andil:
I also purchased the legendary edition. Every showcases and livestreams convinced me this game will be awesome, i want to support Firaxis 100%. I know that i will play hundred of hours.
The only fear i got, for now, is that the game will be too easy, or at least too simple and quick. I'll explain myself: Jake said in a livestream that each fight won't last more that 5 or 6 turns. That looks really short to apply a reliable strategy, in 5 or 6 turns it seems you can't even go through your deck once. In a way, it tends to make the game more a puzzle game than a deckbuilder, but maybe at the cost of the difficulty (which is a good thing to help the A-RPG fan trying the game...).
Anyway, it's pure speculation.
I'm so hyped, i can't wait.

Most deckbuilders are around the same amount of turn for a regular fight (maybe even shorter the better your deck is), if you know how to build the deck and know the synergies, with boss battles potentially going much longer. Remember that there will be cards with the "draw X amount of card" or "discard X amount of card", you're gonna be able to draw deeper into your deck so seeing your whole deck is not gonna be an issue. There are already some tough enemies that i saw in the stream already, that can duplicate themselves or other enemies on the map including elites. There are also the Fallen enemies that can just randomly enter your fight and you'll have a pretty good "puzzle" to solve at the higher difficulty level.

These regular battles are not meant to go on for half an hour or an hour long, I mean it can at the later part of the game or higher difficulty, especially the boss battle I reckon. You're just gonna get a lot of them so you're gonna get this burst of shorter mission and then some longer one, all intertwined into your entire playthrough.
Zirkalaritz Nov 8, 2022 @ 12:38am 
Originally posted by F A B L E D:
There are many reasons why one might spend an extra buck on something more then the vanilla edition of a game. And when it comes to this game, what lead us to our decisions this time?


Legendary. I had the spending cash and I like virtual dress-up, so the extra suits were nice. It including a season pass of extra characters was a welcomed bonus, as I see myself getting it anyways, so have my money Firaxis, I support your games.
Archnemesis Nov 8, 2022 @ 6:13am 
I preordered the Legendary version. Pretty much the same as Zirkalaritz stated. I was psyched also by the idea of being able to make my own superhero to join up with other superheroes that I know and love. Also happy to hear about Storm and Deadpool joining the cast. Anyways, hope you all have fun playing the game, because I'm thinking I'm going to love it! :D
Dewguru Nov 8, 2022 @ 11:27am 
Legendary. Reasons along the same lines as those above.
ingosupercute Nov 9, 2022 @ 12:08pm 
Standard. Because I think the legendary edition is too expensive and I don't even know yet if I`ll like the looks of those skins. And it rubs me extremely the wrong way how they are trying to apply pressure on easily swayed people to get the most expensive pre-order by having that one costume on an unlock timer. It's very anti consumer behavior, which is sadly a common thing with 2k as publisher.

I also don't know if I will enjoy the game for a long period of time or just your average 20-30 hours, so buying additional content DLC that's not available on launch makes no sense in my situation. If I keep at it I can still buy them later on. Plus I'm not really interested in Morbius and Venom, just Deadpool and Storm.

tl;dr 40 bucks for content I'm uncertain of makes me go for lowest entry price
Pacman1970 Nov 11, 2022 @ 9:10am 
Legendary. Had the cash, love Marvel, crazy about XCom and have the firm belief I will be spending hours and hours in this game, why not with all the bells and whistles? :)
Last edited by Pacman1970; Nov 11, 2022 @ 9:11am
Long time interest plus peer pressure.
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