AI in rFactor2 is really bad! is there any way to make it better??

[deangelis777]

at first I must say that I bought rFactor2 only because I hoped so much to have great offline racing against AI. actually I liked rfactor1 but there was only one reason why I stopped to play rfactor1 - terrible AI.
Now I expected so much that rFactor2 AI is very good, inteligent and not ramming into players car... but I started to play and was very disappointed because AI is still so bad... of course it's better and improved comparing to rfactor1 but it's still too far from good offline racing... when AI is right behind of my car then it is good and not ramming into my♥♥♥♥♥but when AI is on the left side or right side of my car his behaviour is stupid... it often hits my car and push me out of the track... in the matter wheel-to-wheel racing and overtaking AI is so bad and makes a lot of stupid mistakes.. I tried to decrease "AI aggression" to 30-35 but it didn't help.. AI is still running into me and push me out of the track...
I tested Project Cars 2 a lot and can say that Project Cars 2 AI is much better than rFactor2 AI.. it's a big disappointment for me.. I paid money and got lame offline racing with stupid AI... even still can't believe in it///
are there any possibilties to improve AI and force AI don't ram into me and not push my car out of the track???

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Originally posted by DAA520Elin's Swing:

The AI in rF2 is considered the best of any game by a landslide. To even mention that you play Arcade Cars 2 is proof positive that quality of game content is not an issue for you.

To even mention that you think Rf2 is superior in some way is proof positive you've never played the best racing simulator of all. Ridge Racer Type 4.

[corey.rogers]

I for one think the AI in RF2 is the best out there. What is important though is that you know the track and the racing line because like real people they will fight for the racing line. Also you probably have the aggression level turned up. Turn it down and see if that works for you. I drive with a high aggression as it makes for great battles where the AI will attempt to capitalize on any mistakes or performance deficits as others would do in online racing.

[Stepy]

I think the A.i is quite good, the only thing i don`t like is that if your on the inside at Interlagoes say and you side by side with the A.I with you on the inside they keep squeezing you until there is contact.

[deangelis777]

Originally posted by DAA520Elin's Swing:

The AI in rF2 is considered the best of any game by a landslide. To even mention that you play Arcade Cars 2 is proof positive that quality of game content is not an issue for you.

dude..you are so funny... you played this race and was much faster than AI...how could AI ram into you?? you started 20th and go to 4th for 7 laps)))) what a joke )) AI even couldn't try to overtake you... try to play against faster AI than you, try to defend your position when AI attack you...for example multiclass racing when AI have faster cars...
I know what I am talking about... I tested a lot and find a ton of stupid AI mistakes. I have a lot of proof of it.
I tested Project Cars 2 and find that Project Cars AI is better... at least it doesn't ram into my car... do you hate Cars?? it only shows your ignorance)) I don't hate any racing games... I like rFactor2 physics and mods.. I would like to play rFactor2 but I need good AI and good offline racing but it is far from it.. AI is dumb.. actually I don's see much difference comparing to rfactor1 AI or GTR2 AI,,, it is same old engine

[deangelis777]

Originally posted by corey.rogers:

I for one think the AI in RF2 is the best out there.

nonsense and lies

Originally posted by corey.rogers:

What is important though is that you know the track and the racing line because like real people they will fight for the racing line.

another nonsense.. why can't I choose other racing lines?? it is not forbidden by the rules. I can drive on these racing lines that I want. but in that case AI becomes blind and doesn't want to see my car and just push into me. same problem was with AI in rfactor1...
AI programmers who was responsible for making AI for rfactor 2 made work too bad... I feel so much disappointment

[deangelis777]

Originally posted by corey.rogers:

Also you probably have the aggression level turned up. Turn it down and see if that works for you..

it doesn't help.. I decrease aggression to 10 and AI is still dumb... the problem isn't aggression.. problem is that AI sometimes becomes blind and refuse to see my car

[Wolke]

What are you talking about ? Little bit trolling ? You are perhaps driving PC2 and think its RF2 ? ;)
What you describe is exactly the PC2 behaviour, that AI is a joke. RF2 AI is the best you can get for now. They see you and you can drive your own line without getting rammed.
On which track and with which cars is that happening ? Maybe track/mod is not optimized for offline racing, with the S397 content i have no problems, its big fun with AI.


Ah , ok you dont even own PC2 (yes yes sure another profiel with1000h) and have 5h in RF2
LOL

[FHarbor]

I love PC2 but rF2 has far better AI. In PC2 the Ai just drivers on rails no overtaking or defending at all. In rF you have everything. Really fun.

[R.C. Collins]

The AI in this Simulator is quite incredible. No two ways about it.

Those having issues must be doing something really goofy with their driving, their settings or both.

I've used these settings forever and it works darn well;
Damage Multiplier - 100%
AI Strength - 99% (You can try 100% but the AI can get a little weird)
AI Aggression - 29% (maybe a percent or two higher - fine tune to your liking)
AI Limiter - 0%

[deangelis777]

Originally posted by Wolke:

What are you talking about ? Little bit trolling ? You are perhaps driving PC2 and think its RF2 ? ;)
What you describe is exactly the PC2 behaviour, that AI is a joke. RF2 AI is the best you can get for now. They see you and you can drive your own line without getting rammed.
On which track and with which cars is that happening ? Maybe track/mod is not optimized for offline racing, with the S397 content i have no problems, its big fun with AI.


Ah , ok you dont even own PC2 (yes yes sure another profiel with1000h) and have 5h in RF2
LOL

guys.. stop it... I just asked for help... I don't suppose to say "project cars 2 is the best game but rF2 is trash, so go to play project cars"... stop to be so toxic! I can repeat again - I love rF2 physics and mods but AI is not good! All hours I played I tested AI behaviour and AI regularly ramming into me and push me out of the track without any reasons... It doesn't happened to me in Project Cars 2 ...I don't say PC is better game, I just say that PC2 AI behaviour is intelligent and not ramming! I know what I'm talking about.. I could record and show you a lot of videos that demonstrates how over-aggressive and dumb rF2 AI is... I used only official tracks and cars from ISI and Studio 397.
My settings is AI strength - 90-100% AI aggression - 10-30% AI limiter - 10%

[R.C. Collins]

physics and mods but AI is not good! All hours I played I tested AI behaviour and AI regularly ramming into me and push me out of the track without any reasons... It doesn't happened to me in Project Cars 2 ...I don't say PC is better game, I just say that PC2 AI behaviour is intelligent and not ramming! I know what I'm talking about.. I could record and show you a lot of videos that

Try the settings I posted above. You can set and leave them for all mods as they work very well.

What exact mod or mods are you driving? I know you said S397 content but which specifically? What are your lap times in comparison to the AI when running the settings I've suggested?

[deangelis777]

Originally posted by R.C. Collins:

physics and mods but AI is not good! All hours I played I tested AI behaviour and AI regularly ramming into me and push me out of the track without any reasons... It doesn't happened to me in Project Cars 2 ...I don't say PC is better game, I just say that PC2 AI behaviour is intelligent and not ramming! I know what I'm talking about.. I could record and show you a lot of videos that

Try the settings I posted above. You can set and leave them for all mods as they work very well.

What exact mod or mods are you driving? I know you said S397 content but which specifically? What are your lap times in comparison to the AI when running the settings I've suggested?

thanks for explanation. I drove McLaren mp4/8... it's amazing car and it feels so good. I love it! in addition it was driven by legendary Ayrton Senna, my favorite F1 driver. great mod. I used Interlagos, Toban, Montreal tracks. I like it but my problem is that AI doesn't keep enough distance from my car and provoking collisions... for example sometimes AI tries to overtake me but instead of it AI suddenly just turns into my car and push me out of the track.. of course it doesn't happen always but quite regularly. so it's so annoying and stressful to me.

[R.C. Collins]

I just ran 26 or so laps at Toban Full Course in the S397 MP4/8. Ran a 1:14.6xx finishing the session in 3rd using the baseline setup.

Not a single problem with the AI other than once which was my fault for being too slow and getting in the(ir) way entering the track from the pitlane..

I think you are just slower than the AI and either need to practice and or turn down the AI strength until you can run clean with or outrun them and start increasing their strength working up to 99%.

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Originally posted by R.C. Collins:

I just ran 26 or so laps at Toban Full Course in the S397 MP4/8. Ran a 1:14.6xx finishing the session in 3rd using the baseline setup.

Not a single problem with the AI other than once which was my fault for being too slow and getting in the(ir) way entering the track from the pitlane..

I think you are just slower than the AI and either need to practice and or turn down the AI strength until you can run clean with or outrun them and start increasing their strength working up to 99%.

In all seriousness, I've had multiple issues with Rf2 AI as well. Mostly due to them rejoining the track like idiots when they do something idiotic to another AI driver and late turn-ins when I'm on the inside of them and they just keep turning like I'm not there. They also are prone to low percentage moves like throwing daring blocks when a car has a run on them by significantly more speed, which can cause a major collision. And the yellow flag behaviour *is* absolutely DISMAL. I've had to adapt my driving style to minimize incidents.

[corey.rogers]

Originally posted by deangelis77:

Originally posted by corey.rogers:

I for one think the AI in RF2 is the best out there.

nonsense and lies

Originally posted by corey.rogers:

What is important though is that you know the track and the racing line because like real people they will fight for the racing line.

another nonsense.. why can't I choose other racing lines?? it is not forbidden by the rules. I can drive on these racing lines that I want. but in that case AI becomes blind and doesn't want to see my car and just push into me. same problem was with AI in rfactor1...
AI programmers who was responsible for making AI for rfactor 2 made work too bad... I feel so much disappointment

I was trying to help and also gave my opinion the way you were allowed to give yours. My opinion may be different but that doesn't make it nonsense or lies just simply my opinion. The AI works for me and it appears to work for many others. You continue to blame the AI but refuse to accept some responsibility as the driver involved. At the end of the day RF2 is not perfect and neither are we, as with every other computer game or program we use we adapt or not. If you are unwilling or unable to adapt to the game don't waste our time by engaging in petty and unhelpful bashing. Just go and play PC2 and we'll spend our spare time assisting others who genuinely need help.