vertices clipping into object regardless of settings

[Mr Mage]

so I'm going through the blenderguru beginner's tutorial for blender so I'm obviously new to the business, but I've ran into an issue with a specific part in the video, specifically between 5:20 and 9:00 where guru is shaping the donut's icing, on my end the icing is clipping through the donut even though I have all the right settings turned on and all the wrong settings turned off, here's the video for context to those willing to help me troubleshoot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmSgsaNSQ6s&list=PLjEaoINr3zgEq0u2MzVgAaHEBt--xLB6U&index=5

[*P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*]

Do you have a screenshot of the issue. I think I have seen this come up before, but it was mainly a viewport issue / inconvenience. IIRC the donuts icing ggets a solidify modifer anyway so it is not really a huge issue if some verts clip into the toroid shape.

[Mr Mage]

Originally posted by *P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*:

Do you have a screenshot of the issue. I think I have seen this come up before, but it was mainly a viewport issue / inconvenience. IIRC the donuts icing ggets a solidify modifer anyway so it is not really a huge issue if some verts clip into the toroid shape.

https://imgur.com/gallery/10z4Qw2 the thing is the icing itself clips into the toroid too, not just the vertices, but here you go

[*P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*]

Here's a thread with the very same issue.
https://imgur.com/a/FQ89jr3

Just increase the thickness on the solidify modifier a bit. Anyway..it will be no issue when rendering. More of a viewport artifact.

[Mr Mage]

Originally posted by *P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*:

Here's a thread with the very same issue.
https://imgur.com/a/FQ89jr3

Just increase the thickness on the solidify modifier a bit. Anyway..it will be no issue when rendering. More of a viewport artifact.

that worsened it, didn't fix it in any way first of all, but now my icing has a crease in it, thankfully I can undo that, but still, that worsened it

[*P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*]

'Crease in it' sounds like double verticies or face normals gone haywire.

Oh and btw...i posted the wrong link.
Here is the thread about a similar issue on the donut:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/365670/discussions/0/2993171625209001284/

Anyway to fix the crease you can try : select all verticies of the icing object and hit M ->by distance. That should get rid off any verticies on top of each other.
If it is an issue with the face normals you can select all faces and hit ALT-N -> Recalculate normals outside. If the direction of the thickness of the icing flips you can either flip the normals using ALT-N or give the solidify modifier a negative distance, as solidify's direction is based on face normals.

Do you have a screenshot of the verticies that you snapped to the donut surface, I wonder if that V shape in your screenshot is vertex that didn't snap to surface or just a screendrawing artifact with the outline.

[Mr Mage]

Originally posted by *P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*:

'Crease in it' sounds like double verticies or face normals gone haywire.

Oh and btw...i posted the wrong link.
Here is the thread about a similar issue on the donut:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/365670/discussions/0/2993171625209001284/

Anyway to fix the crease you can try : select all verticies of the icing object and hit M ->by distance. That should get rid off any verticies on top of each other.
If it is an issue with the face normals you can select all faces and hit ALT-N -> Recalculate normals outside. If the direction of the thickness of the icing flips you can either flip the normals using ALT-N or give the solidify modifier a negative distance, as solidify's direction is based on face normals.

Do you have a screenshot of the verticies that you snapped to the donut surface, I wonder if that V shape in your screenshot is vertex that didn't snap to surface or just a screendrawing artifact with the outline.

that didn't fix it, the creases did fix but my icing is still clipping through the donut

[Mr Mage]

https://imgur.com/gallery/EnnYpZc here's that screenshot you wanted

[*P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*]

You can hit the L key when hovering over a ring of vertcies to select all linked/ connected verts. You can then delete the excess verticies with x if they are separate floating stuff.
https://i.imgur.com/CITjWfc.gif

[*P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*]

Originally posted by Mr Mage:

https://imgur.com/gallery/EnnYpZc here's that screenshot you wanted

Looks all fine, not sure whats the 2 orange dots there on the bottom of the donut, some random single verticies or eventually object origins?

[Mr Mage]

Originally posted by *P0P$*FR3$H3NM3Y3R*:

Originally posted by Mr Mage:

https://imgur.com/gallery/EnnYpZc here's that screenshot you wanted

Looks all fine, not sure whats the 2 orange dots there on the bottom of the donut, some random single verticies or eventually object origins?

those were the 2 verticies that were clipping through