Are palm bones neccisary?

[Sir donks alot (rip my grandpa)]

I used riggify and I was wondering if I really need the palm bones

[Girlgamer87]

the fingers are connected to the hand bone, you could remove it but would need to rotate the basebone of the fingers from the wrist. IK would also be affected (if used). Why?

[Sir donks alot (rip my grandpa)]

Originally posted by binomas:

the fingers are connected to the hand bone, you could remove it but would need to rotate the basebone of the fingers from the wrist. IK would also be affected (if used). Why?

I wasnt sure if its neccisary for source filmmaker

[Girlgamer87]

sfm has a 'limit' of 128 bones but can accept more. just keep the basic body parts and then go from there?

[Sir donks alot (rip my grandpa)]

Originally posted by binomas:

sfm has a 'limit' of 128 bones but can accept more. just keep the basic body parts and then go from there?

But im wondering if the palm bone are of any use. Last time I checked humans cant bend their palms.

[Girlgamer87]

you don't bend your thigh either

[Girlgamer87]

As you're looking to reduce the armature, *SAVE* then delete the palm bones, parent the fingers to the forearm bone, see if you can use it that way.

At minimum, you should have these bones for a reasonable model:

30 fingers (can be reduced to 2, depending on view distance/use etc)
2 hand/palm
4 arm
2 shoulder
3 body/spine
1 pelvis
2 head/jaw
1 neck
4 legs
4 feet
1 root

54 total - leaves a lot for 'other things'.

rigify has a gazillion bones for different reasons, find the above and delete the rest - and relationships. More than likely you would have to check parenting etc on the remaining bones and fix any issues.

[Sir donks alot (rip my grandpa)]

Originally posted by binomas:

As you're looking to reduce the armature, *SAVE* then delete the palm bones, parent the fingers to the forearm bone, see if you can use it that way.

At minimum, you should have these bones for a reasonable model:

30 fingers (can be reduced to 2, depending on view distance/use etc)
2 hand/palm
4 arm
2 shoulder
3 body/spine
1 pelvis
2 head/jaw
1 neck
4 legs
4 feet
1 root

54 total - leaves a lot for 'other things'.

rigify has a gazillion bones for different reasons, find the above and delete the rest - and relationships. More than likely you would have to check parenting etc on the remaining bones and fix any issues.

Yeah I kept the ones Ill need. I removed like the ear bones,nose and etc. Kept the mouth and eyes. I dont really need cheek bones, not for sfm Ive never seen people use cheek bones. But the spine is a bit complicated but I think itll work regardless I dont know, it's shape and position concerns me but if I make too high it'll just go through the neck bone. I dont know what to do with it

https://imgur.com/9tlY0kZ

[Sir donks alot (rip my grandpa)]

Originally posted by binomas:

As you're looking to reduce the armature, *SAVE* then delete the palm bones, parent the fingers to the forearm bone, see if you can use it that way.

At minimum, you should have these bones for a reasonable model:

30 fingers (can be reduced to 2, depending on view distance/use etc)
2 hand/palm
4 arm
2 shoulder
3 body/spine
1 pelvis
2 head/jaw
1 neck
4 legs
4 feet
1 root

54 total - leaves a lot for 'other things'.

rigify has a gazillion bones for different reasons, find the above and delete the rest - and relationships. More than likely you would have to check parenting etc on the remaining bones and fix any issues.

Is the hips a neccisary bone too?