Am I crazy? Is Division 1 better?

[Dark Sun Gwyndolin]

So, last summer I bought a 4k monitor, and it was a truly life-changing experience, and one of the first games I played on my new monitor was Division 2. Seeing the morning sun shimmering through the slats of an oak tree on a DC boulevard was the shot that convinced me I had made the right choice. However, I didn't stick with it for long, as I had tons of other games I wanted to try with my new monitor.

This afternoon, I reinstalled Division 1 on a whim, and did some sidequests. And maybe its just nostalgia talking, but Division 1 is far more immersive for me; it genuinely feels like the apocalypse has just hit society, something that would be eerily prescient of the Pandemic of 2020. Maybe its that I find a big city in the grip of winter to be a more compelling setting than the the swampy streets of DC. Or perhaps that the Dark Zone, snowstorms, and subways in the first game were far scarier than anything in the second.

What do you think? Do you agree that Div1 has a more immersive setting? And will the gameplay hold up long-term for someone whose put dozens of hours into Div2? For reference, I'm already at World Tier 5 in Div1, so I wouldn't be replaying the story, just the remaining sidequests, raids, and the Dark Zone.

[Major Marler]

I think Division 1 is more immersive and Division 2 had better mechanics.

[テレビダンサー]

Nostalgia doesn't affect me in any way so I don't look at D1 with that lense. To me, D1 has more refined mechanics, I like the builds variety in D1, and the character movement is far better than the "ice skating Bowleggedness genu varum" condition that the playable character in D2 has.

Now, I'm not talking about the "chicken dance" movement that players do in PvP in D1, just the overall movement animation of the playable character in D1 is smoother.

I played D2 on day 1, but I stopped in the first two weeks, and never went back. I didn't liked the character movement in D2, and the white armor bar system. Now, I don't play PvP at all in both games, but the few times that I engaged in the DZ in both games, I found that D1's movement is superior than D2 for this activity. D2's "feels" like you are controlling a character with a leg condition.

Now, I must say that I really liked the weapon's attachment system from D2, but that's about it.

If players like D2, more power to them. I just like the gear sets and mechanics from D1, and this is why I continue my search for gear pieces in D1.

I maxed all the 4 characters with the 291 sets in PS4 and Xbox, so I'm just enjoying my journey in PC for the same goal, and D1 still looks amazing to this day.

[Freqsync]

Here's the thing,
Trying out weapons at the beginning is interesting. Same smg same level different dmg output, at tier 5 it doesn't happen. Marksman rifles have different ranges of how far they can shoot from until they can't hit no matter what. Finding places to attack and defend from became a avenue until found corners work marvelously against enemies when you can swap from left to right cheek to stock.

There is plenty to say for those moments in a blizzard or a Hunter appearing in survival or underground.

The scenes as the gold vault and the stadium looking down.

Upgrading to play to the point it goes 4k your ram WiFi gpu storage and cpu are cold air intaked turbo'd will take most a house payments for the year.

I just know this can run 3gb gpu with 8gb of ram. And have you laughing for tripping over a vent trying to leap over it and falling through the floor forever trying to type in /logout.

The headbobs of bat armed enemies to grenade groups dropping 5 at a time to the location as if wearing shortbow kneepads feeling that upgrade to brand new wasn't or is going to be enough. And that's the thing when will it is when it has no reason to be used?

[»' Just GirlPower | Nana♥]

i think D2 sucks, i truly love D1!

[Dark Sun Gwyndolin]

Alright then, glad to see that I'm not the only one who prefers Div1, for its greater immersiveness, terrifying Dark Zone / Survival, and simpler mechanics. I'll play it for at least a while longer, until I've finished all the open-world sidequests and unlocked all the crafting blueprints.

[AllanWake™]

Its simple, D1 is not influenced by gamers..... thy done 90% of it thru their idea. Its reverse in D2.

[Dark Sun Gwyndolin]

Originally posted by AllanWake™:

Its simple, D1 is not influenced by gamers..... thy done 90% of it thru their idea. Its reverse in D2.

Honestly, that's as good a description of Division 2 as I've ever seen. It's the game that gamers asked for... but not the game they wanted.

[Freqsync]

Fight to the finish, Everytime. Then they placed resistance which believe might be endless. The chances of meeting up for a pvp or a survival to push the limits.

Creating a squad to run on other platforms even now makes more sense with AI possbile playng along side on another device for while to work out the kinks. Its the game cut down to the right size and content which only needs the user to cut down on there+their OS sharing and caring to improve better gameplay performance.

Had other teambased
that just run it's course
no longer available
Tom Clancy The Division
just stayed true.
Can make a jungle gym outside of the storied movement
up over boxes and climbing taller
with make shift clothes with belts strapped all over.
Boyscouts of America probably be proud
if they even still existed.
WHO knows things ends to keep it all the same.

Wants out of this game was the snow. Now has become a Need.

[Yorkerz]

Both are amazing games for the story, graphics and atmosphere.

The Division 1. The setting of New York in the snow is stunning. The Survival. Dealing with sickness, coldness, hunger and thirst. Played Solo/Group and PvP/PVE No other survival has grabbed me in as The Survival in Division 1.

(Just wished The Division 2 had a survival mode)

The Division 2. The gameplay seems to have slightly improved with the movement. The armour on enemies seems to work better in Division 2.
More options to customize the characters.

The bullet sponginess of The Division 2 makes more sense due to the armour of the enemies of The Division 2 more than The Division 1.

Having said that I like both! I can't choose!

[tenser-spencer]

I've played both all the way through the campaign and end game scenarios. Liked them both. But still have Division 1 installed for a quick survival mode excursion. Surviving to extraction is a good challenge with all the depleting parameters against you.

NYC is winter will always be more compelling than DC in summer.

[deepeyes]

Originally posted by Dark Sun Gwyndolin:

So, last summer I bought a 4k monitor, and it was a truly life-changing experience, and one of the first games I played on my new monitor was Division 2. Seeing the morning sun shimmering through the slats of an oak tree on a DC boulevard was the shot that convinced me I had made the right choice. However, I didn't stick with it for long, as I had tons of other games I wanted to try with my new monitor.

This afternoon, I reinstalled Division 1 on a whim, and did some sidequests. And maybe its just nostalgia talking, but Division 1 is far more immersive for me; it genuinely feels like the apocalypse has just hit society, something that would be eerily prescient of the Pandemic of 2020. Maybe its that I find a big city in the grip of winter to be a more compelling setting than the the swampy streets of DC. Or perhaps that the Dark Zone, snowstorms, and subways in the first game were far scarier than anything in the second.

What do you think? Do you agree that Div1 has a more immersive setting? And will the gameplay hold up long-term for someone whose put dozens of hours into Div2? For reference, I'm already at World Tier 5 in Div1, so I wouldn't be replaying the story, just the remaining sidequests, raids, and the Dark Zone.

+10

[En.Ki]

i have played both D1+2 for each over 2k hours and after years, i still have moments thinking to reinstall D1 again just to play survival or underground mode ... over even just roam in the open world of NY.

[N7_Shadow]

Originally posted by Dark Sun Gwyndolin:

Originally posted by AllanWake™:

Its simple, D1 is not influenced by gamers..... thy done 90% of it thru their idea. Its reverse in D2.

Honestly, that's as good a description of Division 2 as I've ever seen. It's the game that gamers asked for... but not the game they wanted.

Well, that's not promising. I'm close to finishing up on Div1. I'm saving what appears to be the last mission or one of the last 2 or 3 missions, until my friend can catch up and reach level 30, then do a bit of farming to get good gear.

This game is not friendly to friends who have way different amounts of time to game. Most games, I can help him level up very fast. He works a lot of hours, and can't play near as many hours as I can.

Anyway, we just enjoy the Single Player/Co-Op content in most games, and this one has been a lot of fun.

We have zero desire to go into the Dark Zone. Don't assume that means we such at PvP. Just the opposite. We both do very well in PvP games. But due to our limited time to play, we won't play extraction type shooters, due to the Cheating, and that taking away what you earn. If a cheater kills you in a game like Bf2042, you don't lose anything.

Friends of ours kept trying to hard core recruit us for Tarkov, because they knew we are really good at PvP. We declined due to extraction games attracting cheaters due to the high-risk high-reward nature. They told us nobody was cheating, but then g0at blew the lid off Tarkov with his "Wiggle" video. 40% of his raids had confirmed cheaters, but many more had people showing clear signs of cheating, but they wouldn't wiggle back to confirm they were cheating.

For those living under a rock, the wiggle was a "code of honor" among cheaters. The wiggle confirmed you are a cheater, and thus an agreement of peace was agreed upon. Think of it as Pirates agreeing not to pirate each other. The wiggle was done while seeing somebody with ESP, through buildings, and other obstructions. They wiggle back confirming they saw your wiggle. In doing so, peace is agreed upon.

I'm pretty sure the one true positive from g0at's video is that it is going to make it harder for cheaters to have that same sort of "code of conduct."

Anyway, sorry for the long tangent, but I'm just saying that we would only be playing for the Single Player/Co-Op content. We've really enjoyed the immersive game play presented to us in Div 1, and even the challenging nature it provides. We were really hoping that Div2 would be an even better experience, and were looking forward to it.

Where's a sad face emoticon when you need one?

[Yorkerz]

For the Single Player/Co-Op content you will do fine In The Division 2. As I mentioned above both games are amazing for the Story. Which, The Division 2 carries on with the story from The Division 1. I personally have not touched any side of the PVP in any of The Division games. Even better if you can get The Division 2. at an extremely low price!

[N7_Shadow]

Originally posted by Yorkerz:

For the Single Player/Co-Op content you will do fine In The Division 2. As I mentioned above both games are amazing for the Story. Which, The Division 2 carries on with the story from The Division 1. I personally have not touched any side of the PVP in any of The Division games. Even better if you can get The Division 2. at an extremely low price!

Well, that makes me feel better, because me and my friend are really enjoying Div1 on the Co-Op side.