PvE and PvP into DZ - No more problems!

[Jari Jr.]

MY ENGLISH SUCKS, SO SORRY FOR ANY MISTAKES.

Lets face it, you need DZ to increase your PVE gear. No matter if you're not pvping, just killing npcs to get loot and phoenix points, you can always be killed by a pvp-player and this SUCKS.

I'm not complaning about the pvp itself (which sucks atm, we need team-pvp and rewards for rogues and stuff) but anyways, don't force pve players to get killed by pvp players, this sucks. It's hard and takes too much time to get phoenix points through dailies.

Simple fix:

- Rogue Levels (1 to 10) with rewards per-level, like a weapon you can buy if you survive 5 minutes as rogue lvl 10 in a DZ with +30 PvP-Flagged players;
- "Marshall" Levels (1 to 10) with rewards to kill high-level rogues.

- PvP On
You must turn PvP-Flag on, and once you enter in the DZ, you will not able to see the names, the health bar and the "white body" of other players behind the walls and stuff. But you can see the "PvE-flagged" players. Plus, 25% scavenging bonus and 75% more phoenix points from npcs.

- PvE
When you enter as PvE, you will not able to hit other players and will receive 75% lessphoenix points than other pvp-flagged players.

You can't change your PvP\PvE flag inside the DZ. And the flag have a 30 min cooldown.


And BTW, I don't like pvp.. but for the rewards like specific weapons, more phoenix and scavenging... it worth it. Sure i'll keep my pvp-flag always on since I like to farm faster;


-OR-

For those "you don't need dz to gear your pve char" guys.. another fix: put random bosses in the same location with the same amount of phornix outside the DZ, so you will see the DZ zone population drop as ♥♥♥♥.

Thoughs?


one more time: sorry for my suck-♥♥♥ english.

[kaffekoppen]

I don't think you should even have high-end loot reduction. I'm rank 50 and I've barely used any dark zone loot.

The dark zone looks amazing, so much wasted potential.

How about roaming packs of mobs and "world bosses"? That would be awesome.

[Qsar_]

Luckily my dz server just good as i want to see, its exactly PvPvE zone i m playing with my cousin people grinding bosses for loot and going to extract zone and most of the pvp fights happening while extracting, but yea i gone manhunt rogue yesterday i devastated by other player and lost 2000 dzfunds 1 dz key and 3457 exp. Wtf this isnt punishment this is reward.

Edit: 35 dz rank, had 24 dz keys 155000 dz funds, when i devastated.

[Outsider_Hopper]

The only thing we'va got to farm to have "better gear " was our DZ lvl, all the purple stuff are fcking garbage, if you have a good team you can farm Phoenix quickly and have great reward by doing it quickly...... Stop giving false information to other, DZ is not the fcking ENDGAME , all the peeps who think that are just trash who are not enable to go to challenge mission mode ! ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ retarded crying kids !

[Outsider_Hopper]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Jari Junior:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Hope:

Stop giving false information to other, DZ is not the fcking ENDGAME , all the peeps who think that are just trash who are not enable to go to challenge mission mode ! ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ retarded crying kids !

Riiight... false information? So you're saying there are no gankers? Cool story bro.

did i speak about gankers ? no, please, go ♥♥♥♥ yourself with a duck, with my respect.

[Paradox]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Jari Junior:

MY ENGLISH SUCKS, SO SORRY FOR ANY MISTAKES.

Lets face it, you need DZ to increase your PVE gear. No matter if you're not pvping, just killing npcs to get loot and phoenix points, you can always be killed by a pvp-player and this SUCKS.

I'm not complaning about the pvp itself (which sucks atm, we need team-pvp and rewards for rogues and stuff) but anyways, don't force pve players to get killed by pvp players, this sucks. It's hard and takes too much time to get phoenix points through dailies.

Simple fix:

- Rogue Levels (1 to 10) with rewards per-level, like a weapon you can buy if you survive 5 minutes as rogue lvl 10 in a DZ with +30 PvP-Flagged players;
- "Marshall" Levels (1 to 10) with rewards to kill high-level rogues.

- PvP On
You must turn PvP-Flag on, and once you enter in the DZ, you will not able to see the names, the health bar and the "white body" of other players behind the walls and stuff. But you can see the "PvE-flagged" players. Plus, 25% scavenging bonus and 75% more phoenix points from npcs.

- PvE
When you enter as PvE, you will not able to hit other players and will receive 75% lessphoenix points than other pvp-flagged players.

You can't change your PvP\PvE flag inside the DZ. And the flag have a 30 min cooldown.


Thoughs?


one more time: sorry for my suck-♥♥♥ english.

I agree with a toggle to turn it on or off, too many times I have gone rogue because someone ran into my line of fire. However, the concept itself is a bit broken. You have a PVE zone, where you can also kill other players, that's not PvP that's just PK.

[Medusa]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Jari Junior:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Medusa:

you don't really need dz to increase your pve gear, i agree with the rest tho.

Try gear up for challenges without buy anything from DZ, just farming in missions and buying phoenix gear through dailies and you will see...

thats pretty much what i have done

[Outsider_Hopper]

cry more , pve player who don't want to be ganked don't have to go to darkzone, the darkzone was designed for this on purpose, not to farm loot safely. ( plus, if you're not able, again, to farm challenge mode, don't go either in dz, you're too low... ) . You can think what you want, but pve player was always the same, in every game who pvp was punishing pve player. Don't blame the game, the mechanic who you don't understand, the low gear you have or the enability to make good challenging group, the problem is you, because you want everything to be like your point of view and nothing else . Respect yourself, grow up, the world don't turn around yourself.

[Medusa]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Jari Junior:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Medusa:

thats pretty much what i have done

So you will not that takes waaay more time. Also, the decent designs are all in dz.

what do you mean decent designs?

[Outsider_Hopper]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Jari Junior:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Hope:

cry more , pve player who don't want to be ganked don't have to go to darkzone, the darkzone was designed for this on purpose, ( plus, if you're not able, again, to farm challenge mode, don't go either in dz, you're too low... ) .

So DZ is designed to gank people and if you can't do challenges, you cant do DZ aswell.. so there is NO WAY to gear up.


You autism is strong with this one.

nice. no one care, and you'll be ganked even more in dz

edit : then FARM HARDMODE YOU PISS OF ASSBUT FATKID god, you're a cancer .

[Medusa]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Jari Junior:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Medusa:

what do you mean decent designs?

craft designs

trust me, you don't need dz to have a topnotch gear, if already .. i like doing challenges more than grinding dz .. grind is a grind, but if i'm grinding at least i'll have a HE each run and a chance of having 2 (boss drop) per run + 31-33 Pcredits along the way .. but thats just me.

[TechGui]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Medusa:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Sarcastro:

What I was thinking as well. I have HE gear in every slot except for one and have a DZ rank of 1. What am I missing out on?

nothing, i have full high end recalibrated perfect gear, perfect mods, perfect weapon mods on all 3 of my weapons with perfect talents and nothing came from dz... dz items are useless, you can't have "2 many crafting attemps" du to the high-end division tech that are required to make them, on the other hand, the base of operation + challenge missions offer just about the same items depends how lucky you are you'll get it all without having to dz at all ... not a single item but my extanded magazine(drop) are from dz ... and even the magazine is on my secondary weapon

I can't beelive how little people know about this game, there is only 2 vendors worth buying from and both take PC. One is in your base and the other is locked behind a DZ level of 50. You may have HE gear in every slot, but 3 of those slots are not crafted from BPS, so you do not have the ebst gear you could have. The only place to get half the HE bps is in the DZ after reaching level 50. Those 3 you'll need to go to the DZ for, and without them you do not have the best gear, hell only one set of BP still is only one role, if you like being able to switch it up you'll want all 3.

If you know how to play and understand the game, you would know the DZ is forced if you want the best gear.

[Medusa]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ThisDadIsOnFire:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Medusa:

nothing, i have full high end recalibrated perfect gear, perfect mods, perfect weapon mods on all 3 of my weapons with perfect talents and nothing came from dz... dz items are useless, you can't have "2 many crafting attemps" du to the high-end division tech that are required to make them, on the other hand, the base of operation + challenge missions offer just about the same items depends how lucky you are you'll get it all without having to dz at all ... not a single item but my extanded magazine(drop) are from dz ... and even the magazine is on my secondary weapon

I can't beelive how little people know about this game, there is only 2 vendors worth buying from and both take PC. One is in your base and the other is locked behind a DZ level of 50. You may have HE gear in every slot, but 3 of those slots are not crafted from BPS, so you do not have the ebst gear you could have. The only place to get half the HE bps is in the DZ after reaching level 50. Those 3 you'll need to go to the DZ for, and without them you do not have the best gear, hell only one set of BP still is only one role, if you like being able to switch it up you'll want all 3.

If you know how to play and understand the game, you would know the DZ is forced if you want the best gear.

nope not really what the base can't sell challenges will replace ... i haven't seen yet something new crafting dz6 items ... i have some blueprints none came even close to the items i'm wearing ... the only problem is that i run out of my 40ish or something HE division tech to keep crafting and see if there is anything to it (dz6 gear) .. but nope .. nothing so far which was better than what i already had .. plus you need to grind the hell out of dz for more he division tech to try again. if people want to be stupid .. please by all means, i'm just giving you my cent of the game mechanics and understanding, i've been playing around with gear for a quite a while.

[Outsider_Hopper]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ThisDadIsOnFire:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Medusa:

nothing, i have full high end recalibrated perfect gear, perfect mods, perfect weapon mods on all 3 of my weapons with perfect talents and nothing came from dz... dz items are useless, you can't have "2 many crafting attemps" du to the high-end division tech that are required to make them, on the other hand, the base of operation + challenge missions offer just about the same items depends how lucky you are you'll get it all without having to dz at all ... not a single item but my extanded magazine(drop) are from dz ... and even the magazine is on my secondary weapon

I can't beelive how little people know about this game, there is only 2 vendors worth buying from and both take PC. One is in your base and the other is locked behind a DZ level of 50. You may have HE gear in every slot, but 3 of those slots are not crafted from BPS, so you do not have the ebst gear you could have. The only place to get half the HE bps is in the DZ after reaching level 50. Those 3 you'll need to go to the DZ for, and without them you do not have the best gear, hell only one set of BP still is only one role, if you like being able to switch it up you'll want all 3.

If you know how to play and understand the game, you would know the DZ is forced if you want the best gear.

those church bp are not all worse it to have. And if someone want just to reach DZ rank 50 quickly, he's not forced to loot, but just grind exp from mob and bosses ( and with a chance to loot HE or named gear ) Thinking that the only real way is the DZ06 church is just a mess. I had better chance on loot than all my craft made from lvl 31 darkzone bp. And i lost all my 133 div tech to craft them.

[Medusa]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Hope:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ThisDadIsOnFire:

I can't beelive how little people know about this game, there is only 2 vendors worth buying from and both take PC. One is in your base and the other is locked behind a DZ level of 50. You may have HE gear in every slot, but 3 of those slots are not crafted from BPS, so you do not have the ebst gear you could have. The only place to get half the HE bps is in the DZ after reaching level 50. Those 3 you'll need to go to the DZ for, and without them you do not have the best gear, hell only one set of BP still is only one role, if you like being able to switch it up you'll want all 3.

If you know how to play and understand the game, you would know the DZ is forced if you want the best gear.

those church bp are not all worse it to have. And if someone want just to reach DZ rank 50 quickly, he's not forced to loot, but just grind exp from mob and bosses ( and with a chance to loot HE or named gear ) Thinking that the only real way is the DZ06 church is just a mess. I had better chance on loot than all my craft made from lvl 31 darkzone bp. And i lost all my 133 div tech to craft them.

its not the chance, its just that you can get better drops than those bps in dz6, dz6 mods are base mods dz6 weapon upgrades are base weapon upgrades, base has the vector , base items don't require division tech, the rest you can find doing challenges with 1-2 HE drops every 8-10min

[Outsider_Hopper]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Medusa:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Hope:

those church bp are not all worse it to have. And if someone want just to reach DZ rank 50 quickly, he's not forced to loot, but just grind exp from mob and bosses ( and with a chance to loot HE or named gear ) Thinking that the only real way is the DZ06 church is just a mess. I had better chance on loot than all my craft made from lvl 31 darkzone bp. And i lost all my 133 div tech to craft them.

its not the chance, its just that you can get better drops than those bps in dz6, dz6 mods are base mods dz6 weapon upgrades are base weapon upgrades, base has the vector , base items don't require division tech, the rest you can find doing challenges with 1-2 HE drops every 8-10min

I know Medusa, in fact, i try to say same thing than you. :p