Is the Caduceus good?

[peck]

I got the Caduceus within maybe the first 2-3 weeks of the game came out by running the Lex. Event Center over and over again (far before the 1.1 patch). I've found it to be one of the best AR's not only because of it's Coolheaded talent, but also because of its stats. It has (for me) 8830DMG and 625RPM at 2565 firearms (Some may consider that kinda low but w/e). Also, the stability is god-like so I can stay on target very easily, unlike other weapons i've used.

This is very similar to a similar GS 183 Black Market AK with that having 3 more dmg and 25 less RMP yet i've seen that gun hailed as one of the best rifles even for PvP. I've read from various places that the Caduceus sucks, but they didn't really state if it's because of the talents, the stats or both.

This is a very good AR for PvE since you can spam your DMG skills like BFB or even some Rollers. One gripe I do have with this is that you have to have an 1889 Electronics/Firearms score to have Coolheaded activated. This isn't really a problem for most people who're going for an Elec build but maybe an issue for those running DPS build. I'm gonna start screwing around with different builds but I'd let to get others' opinions on the rifle in question.

Thanks.

[Y4KUZAISHI]

it's good i have one and now i reach DPS 180K but too much recoil u need to practice it

[mi7chell86]

Caduceus is by far the best weapon for electronics builds. It doesnt bring enough damage and weapon talents for firearms builds though.

[DHC]

Most people use vector + rpm hack + no recoil & aimbot.

[waaaazzza]

too much recoil

[crazie8]

I just use another gun with coolheaded as first talent since it costs no stats at all to unlock if I am worried about CDs. I don't run sticky spam specs, just heals/defense/buffs so I don't even have near enough FA to use the caddy. If I am playing in a team, cds is np so I don't even run a CD reduction gun anyways. It all depends on what your doing I guess and each their own preferences.

[mi7chell86]

w@z a écrit :

too much recoil

You mod for accuracy and stability, for as many headshots as possible. It doesn't matter that you're skipping over the typical crit chance/crit dmg/rate of fire because that's not a Caduceus user's aim.

[mi7chell86]

crazie8 a écrit :

I just use another gun with coolheaded as first talent since it costs no stats at all to unlock if I am worried about CDs. I don't run sticky spam specs, just heals/defense/buffs so I don't even have near enough FA to use the caddy. If I am playing in a team, cds usually is np especially with 4 piece tactitions so no need to run CD reduction gun. :D

Only marksman rifles and Caduceus have Coolheaded, and it's the third weapon talent that has no requirements, not first. I have 4pc tact too, and you can't maintain 100% buff time without Triage. Caduceus means you can use something other than Triage. And it's usefulness is twice fold if you're playing the CC bot, keeping shotgunners in stickyflash 100% is a life saver.

[crazie8]

ARs are just awful, sorry. I mean they are better than shotguns and most lmgs but that isn't saying much. I hope they buff non-smgs soon.

[crazie8]

Mitchlol a écrit :

Only marksman rifles and Caduceus have Coolheaded, and it's the third weapon talent that has no requirements, not first. I have 4pc tact too, and you can't maintain 100% buff time without Triage. Caduceus means you can use something other than Triage. And it's usefulness is twice fold if you're playing the CC bot, keeping shotgunners in stickyflash 100% is a life saver.

I have my MK17 on hand with cool headed for just those occasions. Much prefer that gun over any AR. I dream of getting this on a FW m1a but not like that is going to happen any time soon if at all lol.

[waaaazzza]

Mitchlol a écrit :

w@z a écrit :

too much recoil

You mod for accuracy and stability, for as many headshots as possible. It doesn't matter that you're skipping over the typical crit chance/crit dmg/rate of fire because that's not a Caduceus user's aim.

No, im compare to my old M1a 182 and the new M1A240, and police gun are exactly same w better talent.. he's just good skynned like all super mega cheap weapons..exotic = joke for billing your account

[waaaazzza]

Mitchlol a écrit :

crazie8 a écrit :

I just use another gun with coolheaded as first talent since it costs no stats at all to unlock if I am worried about CDs. I don't run sticky spam specs, just heals/defense/buffs so I don't even have near enough FA to use the caddy. If I am playing in a team, cds usually is np especially with 4 piece tactitions so no need to run CD reduction gun. :D

Only marksman rifles and Caduceus have Coolheaded, and it's the third weapon talent that has no requirements, not first. I have 4pc tact too, and you can't maintain 100% buff time without Triage. Caduceus means you can use something other than Triage. And it's usefulness is twice fold if you're playing the CC bot, keeping shotgunners in stickyflash 100% is a life saver.

Not needed, others weapons have that talent too, usseless w green gs.

[Starlight!]

Really good with stability mods

[mi7chell86]

w@z a écrit :

Mitchlol a écrit :

You mod for accuracy and stability, for as many headshots as possible. It doesn't matter that you're skipping over the typical crit chance/crit dmg/rate of fire because that's not a Caduceus user's aim.

No, im compare to my old M1a 182 and the new M1A240, and police gun are exactly same w better talent.. he's just good skynned like all super mega cheap weapons..exotic = joke for billing your account

You can't compare the AR to a marksman rifle, they're meant for different situations. Unless you're sitting way behind your team, the AR is going to land more headshots in a short amount of time than amarksman rifle is going to. And that's all a weapon with Coolheaded is used for.

crazie8 a écrit :

ARs are just awful, sorry. I mean they are better than shotguns and most lmgs but that isn't saying much. To much recoil and def too uncontrolable. My LSW 204 beats every AR I have made or found so far which is kinda sad. Lastly, it can't be skinned and I hate that blue so that is another reason why my caddy is muled lol. I hope they buff non-smgs soon.

What are you saying is awful about them? If its the damage, or accuracy (for those of you who just hold shoot down), then your argument is pointless in this thread. Caduceus is NOT a dps dealers weapon, like I stated previously. They're only uncontrollable when you can't aim or compensate for weapon movement. The only reason a 204 LMG would beat a 204 AR, if both had the same weapon talents, is if you can't aim properly, and the increased stability is why you prefer the LMG.

[Morbid Gamer]

I put a ton of stability on mine... Works great for resetting skills. Only negitive I have with it is... That worthless talent it has to remove statis effect... Should have been stability or crit.

I've been looking for a replacement and haven't found one yet.

[mi7chell86]

Morbid Gamer a écrit :

I put a ton of stability on mine... Works great for resetting skills. Only negitive I have with it is... That worthless talent it has to remove statis effect... Should have been stability or crit.

I've been looking for a replacement and haven't found one yet.

If you're looking for a replacement with Coolheaded, the only thing you'll find is a marksman rifle, which in my fairly well-founded opinion, doesn't cut for a support build.