Predator invades DZ and even skirmish and the game is not fun anymore...

[elite_dude]

Yeah it's everwear now and it's compleatly annoying,unfair and unbalanced
predator does not need any changes or nerfing...this dirty cheat build must be stopped in pvp.
EDR is just nothing at all cos you are not fighting 1 predator only most of the time u will face or you have to deal with 3 to 6 preds...crazy big example if you went rogue...even most streamers they dont like this build...
predator with 10k stamina+damage with bleed...are you joking :)

[KhongX]

Bleed resist still works against Predator, even though the gearset says it will ignore bleed resist.

[DEATHSTORKER]

I delt with three of them 2 days ago I was in a nomad with 4 certified pieces I was wiped out instantly , my big complaint is lack of the old certified pieces it seem they never show up on grinding this is a joke in itself on predator I have a complete set haven't used it because everyone has it in the DZ and I'm sure it will be buffed soon

[elite_dude]

Originally posted by KhongX:

Bleed resist still works against Predator, even though the gearset says it will ignore bleed resist.

Well i thought the same thing cos as u said it ignores the bleed resist!... and i asked this question before they said it does not counter the bleed!...so i didnt try it so i will give it a try...but whatever predator build is still annoying...

[KhongX]

Originally posted by Omar_Ali:

Originally posted by KhongX:

Bleed resist still works against Predator, even though the gearset says it will ignore bleed resist.

Well i thought the same thing cos as u said it ignores the bleed resist!... and i asked this question before they said it does not counter the bleed!...so i didnt try it so i will give it a try...but whatever predator build is still annoying...

I think its a bug right now that bleed resist still works against it, and they might fix it sometime later, which will make Predator even more annoying than it is now.

[M✈E✈C✈P]

Ill start out first saying I play all the builds and not just predator but let me take a guess and say you play striker and are fine with that build. When will people finaly understand that this game is not ment for 1v1 its a team based game so you cant counter every build on your own. Striker is way more broken then predator and just because predator comes the closest to counter that build everyone starts to cry. You can easly counter predator. 1) using a medkit cancels the bleed 2) once you start to bleed you cant get a bleed from someone else untill the first bleed is removed making multiple sets not the best strat. 3) using adrenaline talent makes you immune for 7 seconds from status effects making predator set useless during that time. 4) If you stay in immune station you cant bleed. 5) in order to get the bleed crit you need 9k stamina which means your other shots dont do a ton of damage . Now lets look at the counter for striker. only counter is emp which only freezes the current stacks but all they need to do is use a medkit and there good to go and can get up to 100 % damage increase per bullet and healing and then when you kill someone proc on the move for even more damage resistance. Also EDR if your refering to exotic damage resistance has nothing to do with bleed its for sticky bombs and seeker mine damage

[DEATHSTORKER]

Realy the main complaint is group hunt more players today are solo and I understand this it isn't just the gear sets and I accept this because we are not forced to go to the dark zone and for div credits u can sell gear and get credits also.

[elite_dude]

Originally posted by MعCp:

Ill start out first saying I play all the builds and not just predator but let me take a guess and say you play striker and are fine with that build. When will people finaly understand that this game is not ment for 1v1 its a team based game so you cant counter every build on your own. Striker is way more broken then predator and just because predator comes the closest to counter that build everyone starts to cry. You can easly counter predator. 1) using a medkit cancels the bleed 2) once you start to bleed you cant get a bleed from someone else untill the first bleed is removed making multiple sets not the best strat. 3) using adrenaline talent makes you immune for 7 seconds from status effects making predator set useless during that time. 4) If you stay in immune station you cant bleed. 5) in order to get the bleed crit you need 9k stamina which means your other shots dont do a ton of damage . Now lets look at the counter for striker. only counter is emp which only freezes the current stacks but all they need to do is use a medkit and there good to go and can get up to 100 % damage increase per bullet and healing and then when you kill someone proc on the move for even more damage resistance. Also EDR if your refering to exotic damage resistance has nothing to do with bleed its for sticky bombs and seeker mine damage

Thanks for the info...and yes i use striker with 9k stamina cos of preds and nomads :) also i use immune station...except adrenaline talent i missed that thanks! and i know this is not "1 vs 1 game.." but what i like in dz is (manhunt and survive)...and now 1.8 it's really a team based game cos of "annoying preds and nomads"...if you know what i mean...and for sure i cant counter every build (everytime) and im not the best player in the world...:) but preds and nomads are the skills killer! thats the point...RIP 1.7 ;)

[JazzBlueChally]

Originally posted by Omar_Ali:

Originally posted by MعCp:

Ill start out first saying I play all the builds and not just predator but let me take a guess and say you play striker and are fine with that build. When will people finaly understand that this game is not ment for 1v1 its a team based game so you cant counter every build on your own. Striker is way more broken then predator and just because predator comes the closest to counter that build everyone starts to cry. You can easly counter predator. 1) using a medkit cancels the bleed 2) once you start to bleed you cant get a bleed from someone else untill the first bleed is removed making multiple sets not the best strat. 3) using adrenaline talent makes you immune for 7 seconds from status effects making predator set useless during that time. 4) If you stay in immune station you cant bleed. 5) in order to get the bleed crit you need 9k stamina which means your other shots dont do a ton of damage . Now lets look at the counter for striker. only counter is emp which only freezes the current stacks but all they need to do is use a medkit and there good to go and can get up to 100 % damage increase per bullet and healing and then when you kill someone proc on the move for even more damage resistance. Also EDR if your refering to exotic damage resistance has nothing to do with bleed its for sticky bombs and seeker mine damage

Thanks for the info...and yes i use striker with 9k stamina cos of preds and nomads :) also i use immune station...except adrenaline talent i missed that thanks! and i know this is not "1 vs 1 game.." but what i like in dz is (manhunt and survive)...and now 1.8 it's really a team based game cos of "annoying preds and nomads"...if you know what i mean...and for sure i cant counter every build (everytime) and im not the best player in the world...:) but preds and nomads are the skills killer! thats the point...RIP 1.7 ;)

Sounds like you suck at pvp

[Fent Fiend]

Bleed resist really counters it well, but only to a certain extent. Nobody wants to invest all their attributes into bleed resistance into something that shouldn't even have to be dealt with in the first place.

And in that context, Predator's mark is kinda broken. I'm just speaking from watching YT videos of people with predator's mark, I never actually got killed or seen anyone use it yet.

Though I guess some sets like reclaimer/nomad can counter it.

[Mizak]

The community cant have anything nice because of the constant need to try to balance a wonderful game around pvp. I want there to be crazy op builds. I want to feel like a terminator but because people like you ♥♥♥♥♥, moan, whine and complain there is always this uncertainty.

I wish mmo devs would just simple say "This is the pvp, take it or leave it" and put their efforts into making the best GAME they can.

F balancing for pvp. F it. Getting owned by predator? BUILD A PREDATOR SET. Build a resist set and make a loadout for a quick switch berfore the fight. Use the options the game is providing you. But damn it, let us be powerful in a game that is all about becoming crazy powerful!

I play Battlegrounds, Battlefield, Dirty Bomb, LoL etc for pvp. I play mmoish games for the co op.

[Shendun]

take it easy and play the game, the classified gear sets is the new beasts of the game.
The classified gearset will eventualy be modified to fit into the game.
Right now its the drop rates that is the problem, which causes the unbalance in the game.

[I got 1984'd]

Answer is more sets.tired of the same old ♥♥♥♥ tbh

[DEATHSTORKER]

More sets ,hell u can't a complete certified set now lol

[Logical Maneuver]

Are YOU joking? Bleed Resist drop it from 8 to 5, even 3 seconds. Popping a heal makes you immune for 7 seconds, dropping an immunizer station makes you immune, crossing paths with another players breaks there hit counter.

This is literally the easiest classified set to counter next to fire crest, because it's all about a status effect you put on another player and not how the set benefits your stats directly.

[elite_dude]

Originally posted by Razgries:

Are YOU joking? Bleed Resist drop it from 8 to 5, even 3 seconds. Popping a heal makes you immune for 7 seconds, dropping an immunizer station makes you immune, crossing paths with another players breaks there hit counter.

This is literally the easiest classified set to counter next to fire crest, because it's all about a status effect you put on another player and not how the set benefits your stats directly.

I have to try the bleed resistance it seems serious... :)
but not now currently i'm having issues with the network...Thanks