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76561198029797964 Sep 8, 2017 @ 4:19am
Rogue 2.0 to change the DZ forever!
Say goodbye to people getting killed from behind without any chance to defense just because someone decided to become Rogue in the last minute and say goodbye to "accidental Rogue status" when you're trying to shoot a real Rogue but misses and hits some random person.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=TVSrwk3Otoo

"To all the players complaining about the rogue passive toggle...

This feature won't make it a PvE Dark Zone. The passive toggle won't protect players from rogues but simply prevent then from going rogue. There are always going to be rogue agents. And with rogue 2.0 , players that survive rogue status are going to be rewarded more too. So that should encourage more players to go rogue too.

This feature will allow random agents to work together to take on rogues. And that's how the DZ is supposed to be. Where as, randoms currently just get in the way of one another, accidentally strafing into the line of fire or running into the blast radius of a grenade causing players to get a 19 second timer and then get gunned down by everyone. Many rogues use this to their advantage too by running between agents to cause them to accidentally go rogue on one another. It creates a carousel of players running around like headless chickens, and it looks stupid.

Also, this feature will hopefully stop players from multi-grouping and body blocking for a cheap advantage. If you don't like that then get good or get gone."

— KCG - Kodie Collings Gaming

[ EDIT ] More great info from MarcoStyle:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=l3oG3lcaC_g
Last edited by 76561198029797964; Sep 15, 2017 @ 8:55am
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Reborn Sep 8, 2017 @ 4:21am 
theres gonna be pve darkzone?
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76561198029797964 Sep 8, 2017 @ 4:24am 
Originally posted by Reborn:
theres gonna be pve darkzone?

Nothing was mentioned about it so far, but I believe the PvE DZ won't happen anytime soon... especially because there's a lot of PvE content already (even if it's not new/story content).
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Kasane Randell MFer Sep 8, 2017 @ 9:14am 
Good news indeed for the toggle. Finally.
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[CZ] Shero Sep 8, 2017 @ 9:24am 
The "cancer" of Division has at last some cure :D :D
The most depresind thing in Division/ Dark Zone is the time, when you come to extract some things, you meet there some random party of 3 people...you cooperate together and when you want to hook up your loot, they just shoot you in the face... NOPE back, always BACK !!

Well the DZ zone is ALL ABOUT ROUGE, but when I want to play all of the content and I CANT!! becouse there aree a tons of people that think that ROUGE BUKAKE is fun !!!... Well that really sux..... this button is the first step to cure the Division !! :D :D GL and HF !!
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76561198029797964 Sep 8, 2017 @ 9:37am 
Originally posted by CZ Zeny Shigehito:
The "cancer" of Division has at last some cure :D :D
The most depresind thing in Division/ Dark Zone is the time, when you come to extract some things, you meet there some random party of 3 people...you cooperate together and when you want to hook up your loot, they just shoot you in the face... NOPE back, always BACK !!

Well the DZ zone is ALL ABOUT ROUGE, but when I want to play all of the content and I CANT!! becouse there aree a tons of people that think that ROUGE BUKAKE is fun !!!... Well that really sux..... this button is the first step to cure the Division !! :D :D GL and HF !!

At least now everyone will have a chance. There's even more stuff they can do to improve the DZ, let's see if they share more news in the next SOTG videos.
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GunsForBucks Sep 8, 2017 @ 12:26pm 
You can still get shot in the back by hackers and glitchers... this really changes nothing.

They should look at the drop pools and not force people to go into the dark zone in the first place... the whole concept of PVP in the dark zone is MMO style where those who have been around the most can dominate. Even without cheating... and there lies the problem, new people feel like they have to cheat in order to just have a chance.

It is set up so the powerful can dominate over the weak and then the devs force you into the dark zone in order to get anything worth ♥♥♥♥ in exotics... the Named out in the normal world only drop the same crap over and over. Players also get forced into the dark zone in order to get weekly kills for an exotic. It is as though the devs want to cultivate the minds of children who like to torture small animals... the whole power over the weak thing. Until that changes the DZ will remain a cesspool.
Last edited by GunsForBucks; Sep 8, 2017 @ 12:32pm
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[UBI]Insulin Sep 8, 2017 @ 5:14pm 
Originally posted by Davi de Assis:
Originally posted by CZ Zeny Shigehito:
The "cancer" of Division has at last some cure :D :D
The most depresind thing in Division/ Dark Zone is the time, when you come to extract some things, you meet there some random party of 3 people...you cooperate together and when you want to hook up your loot, they just shoot you in the face... NOPE back, always BACK !!

Well the DZ zone is ALL ABOUT ROUGE, but when I want to play all of the content and I CANT!! becouse there aree a tons of people that think that ROUGE BUKAKE is fun !!!... Well that really sux..... this button is the first step to cure the Division !! :D :D GL and HF !!

At least now everyone will have a chance. There's even more stuff they can do to improve the DZ, let's see if they share more news in the next SOTG videos.

We definitely will, the toggle was apparently just a small part of the news. :)
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yxman Sep 8, 2017 @ 5:36pm 
@[UBI]Insulin battleye confirmed? ;)

(this game is full of cheaters in DZ)
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76561198029797964 Sep 15, 2017 @ 5:54am 
More details about the new Rogue and Manhunt systems:

https://youtu.be/l3oG3lcaC_g?t=5m40s

I must say, now it will be way more fair and balanced than before, because only go Rogue the ones who wants to. No more accidental shots or going Rogue because someone in your group just decided. And Manhunt now rewards the really good players in both sides, since there's no more counter and you only end the Manhunt into a specific terminal (see the video for details) in specific conditions... that will give you Manhunt caches.

Anyway, just watch the video (starting on 5:40) to know better. ;)
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donwag43 Oct 12, 2017 @ 4:33pm 
In DZ Theres 4 rogue group that wait by the safe house and kill you when you come out or try to go in. Probably need group of 4 or 5 good guys to beat them. Also at extraction. Not 1 rogue, Group of 4. Bull S__t.
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Serangel Oct 12, 2017 @ 6:44pm 
I like the toggle change, it will prevent accidental rogues but more importantly, rogues will have a harder time because non rogues will be able to put damage on targets with the removed fear of accidenal rogueing. It kinda of sucks cause idk how many times i got away going rogue because a large group of randoms went rogue trying to kill me then just killed each other and forgot about me, but in the grand sceme of the game its an improvment.
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MysticalPotato Oct 19, 2017 @ 6:42am 
Originally posted by donwag43:
In DZ Theres 4 rogue group that wait by the safe house and kill you when you come out or try to go in. Probably need group of 4 or 5 good guys to beat them. Also at extraction. Not 1 rogue, Group of 4. Bull S__t.
Solution; go elsewhere in the DZ or Go and do something else entirely e.g. missions/incursions/underground. Problem solved. OR you can continue to whine like most players do.

I have no interest in PvP but don't mind that others DO like it. I've been ganked many a time and simply move on when I've had enough. It's not rocket science.
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marcelFX Oct 19, 2017 @ 9:39pm 
Originally posted by UBIInsulin:
Originally posted by Davi de Assis:

At least now everyone will have a chance. There's even more stuff they can do to improve the DZ, let's see if they share more news in the next SOTG videos.

We definitely will, the toggle was apparently just a small part of the news. :)
Just a question why dont you try to divide the dz in PvE for story mode with group and PvP Just like survival? A New story mode going into dz to central park ( linking this two sites ) would be interesting.
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tQ ReCrack Oct 19, 2017 @ 11:07pm 
Only problem with toggle is that no one wants to go rogue. It's now a reverse multi-group (it could be a group of 10 non rogues vs 4 rogues) making it rather difficult to survive manhunts.
Also if this hypothetical 10 non rogues were to all spam nades at the same time, this would destroy the 4 man rogue group in a matter of seconds.
Last edited by tQ ReCrack; Oct 19, 2017 @ 11:09pm
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Two Clicks Oct 20, 2017 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by ReCrack:
Only problem with toggle is that no one wants to go rogue. It's now a reverse multi-group (it could be a group of 10 non rogues vs 4 rogues) making it rather difficult to survive manhunts.
Also if this hypothetical 10 non rogues were to all spam nades at the same time, this would destroy the 4 man rogue group in a matter of seconds.

Very true. But at the same time rogues where already exploiting the FF mechanism. Now they cant. So I guess the initative in that case is not with them any more! )
Last edited by Two Clicks; Oct 20, 2017 @ 12:09pm
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