Kona
How do I use the menu?
I can get around the menu by holding a movement (WASD) key or two to get e.g. north, northeast, east, etc. I have seen videos of people using the mouse to choose items, but it doesn't do anything for me. This means that some items in the inventory are totally unavailable unless I load/unload things to the truck until the item I want falls under one of the eight directions. Is there a way to incrementally go from one item to another around the 'clock', or to just use the mouse (which would be much easier)?
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Jean-Francois Fiset  [developer] Jun 16, 2016 @ 6:57am 
Originally posted by Hobo Jim Yeti:
I can get around the menu by holding a movement (WASD) key or two to get e.g. north, northeast, east, etc. I have seen videos of people using the mouse to choose items, but it doesn't do anything for me. This means that some items in the inventory are totally unavailable unless I load/unload things to the truck until the item I want falls under one of the eight directions. Is there a way to incrementally go from one item to another around the 'clock', or to just use the mouse (which would be much easier)?
Did you try with the mouse? Because it is supposed to work, the menu is designed to be used with a mouse or a controller. If your mouse doesn't work, try to quit the game and start it again. If it still doesn't work, we will investigate further ;)
Hobo Jim Yeti Jun 17, 2016 @ 8:41am 
Originally posted by Jean-Francois Fiset:
Did you try with the mouse? Because it is supposed to work, the menu is designed to be used with a mouse or a controller. If your mouse doesn't work, try to quit the game and start it again. If it still doesn't work, we will investigate further ;)

The mouse click works to select an item, but I can only move the arrow with the WASD keys; moving the mouse in the menu does nothing. I have restarted the system and the mouse still doesn't move the cursor (it never did; from the beginning I just thought that I had to use the keys).

This is a Windows 7 system. Mouselook works just fine inside the game, it just won't move anything from within the rotary menus. The play/option/exit menu in the opening screen does have a moving mouse cursor, though. Is there anything you'd like me to try or more information you need to troubleshoot this? Thanks!
Jean-Francois Fiset  [developer] Jun 17, 2016 @ 10:31am 
Originally posted by Hobo Jim Yeti:
Originally posted by Jean-Francois Fiset:
Did you try with the mouse? Because it is supposed to work, the menu is designed to be used with a mouse or a controller. If your mouse doesn't work, try to quit the game and start it again. If it still doesn't work, we will investigate further ;)

The mouse click works to select an item, but I can only move the arrow with the WASD keys; moving the mouse in the menu does nothing. I have restarted the system and the mouse still doesn't move the cursor (it never did; from the beginning I just thought that I had to use the keys).

This is a Windows 7 system. Mouselook works just fine inside the game, it just won't move anything from within the rotary menus. The play/option/exit menu in the opening screen does have a moving mouse cursor, though. Is there anything you'd like me to try or more information you need to troubleshoot this? Thanks!
The only way I manage to use WASD in the radial menu is when I turn the left stick of my Xbox controller. However, when I try with the mouse after, everything works.
Do you have a controller plugged in your computer? If yes, what kind of controller is it?
Hobo Jim Yeti Jun 24, 2016 @ 4:09pm 
Sorry for the delay. This is odd - now the mouse doesn't work in even the intro menu. That means that I can select play and options with WASD but not quit; I can only quit with the task manager. Inside the game, the mouselook function works fine and the left button will select a radial menu item, but I'm still unable to choose menu items with the mouse movement since there is no cursor. In the intro menu, A and D will select play and options but won't move past options to select exit.

I do not have any gamepad-type controller. I had a Logitech Extreme3D Pro joystick plugged in, but the game behaves the same way whether or not I have it plugged in (restarting the game before and after plugging and unplugging it). I have restarted the computer recently and restart the game itself before plugging or unplugging the Logitech. The joystick itself doesn't have any effect inside the game.
bouybouy Jun 25, 2016 @ 3:39am 
Je comprend pas non plus cette histoire de control du menu.
Je l'utilise avec 1 2 3 4 , mais en 1 c'est toujours la torche, j'ai perdu le pied-de-biche (arache clous) que je vient de débloquer au garage.
Mais là, je vient de metre le jeu en francais, donc peu etre je comprendrai mieux certaines choses.

Je suis en azerty, j'ai du moddifier les controls en conséquence.
Détestant utiliser le raccourci-clavier de windows pour passer de l'azerty au qwerty,, je me suis toujours demander pourquoi les dev faisait pas un bouton dans la config des touches qui servirais a intervetir la config des touches AZQW avec les touches QWAZ.
Il mest deja arriver dans certain jeu d'avoir des enmerdres apres avoir changer les touches (des menus bloqués à l'utilisation des touches qwerty) ici ça a pas l'air d'etre le cas, mais comme je patauge encore c'est possibilité d'avoir un probleme est clairement d'actualité vu que je découvre le jeu (en direct live, ou presque, héhé).

Edit: bon,, j'ai apparament un probleme. Je regarde la carte que j'ai sur moi, je zoom avec la souris, aucun probleme. Je veut sortir de la carte, j'ai l'indication que je peu utiliser Q mais Q marche pas pour retirer la carte (ça fait rien en faite), je doit utiliser la touche Back(retour) pour je pense avoir le meme effet.

Edit: lisant une brochure,, invité a utiliser WASD pour tourner les pages, A et D fonctionnents mais c'est ceux en azerty donc le A ne sert pas a bouger le personnage donc le A est non intuitif pour tourner les pages dans mon cas.
Je me demande a quoi sert QW.
Last edited by bouybouy; Jun 25, 2016 @ 4:01am
Jean-Francois Fiset  [developer] Jun 25, 2016 @ 8:04am 
Originally posted by Hobo Jim Yeti:
Sorry for the delay. This is odd - now the mouse doesn't work in even the intro menu. That means that I can select play and options with WASD but not quit; I can only quit with the task manager. Inside the game, the mouselook function works fine and the left button will select a radial menu item, but I'm still unable to choose menu items with the mouse movement since there is no cursor. In the intro menu, A and D will select play and options but won't move past options to select exit.

I do not have any gamepad-type controller. I had a Logitech Extreme3D Pro joystick plugged in, but the game behaves the same way whether or not I have it plugged in (restarting the game before and after plugging and unplugging it). I have restarted the computer recently and restart the game itself before plugging or unplugging the Logitech. The joystick itself doesn't have any effect inside the game.
Do you have this issue with other games or just ours?
Originally posted by Fr Bouy:
Je comprend pas non plus cette histoire de control du menu.
Je l'utilise avec 1 2 3 4 , mais en 1 c'est toujours la torche, j'ai perdu le pied-de-biche (arache clous) que je vient de débloquer au garage.
Mais là, je vient de metre le jeu en francais, donc peu etre je comprendrai mieux certaines choses.

Je suis en azerty, j'ai du moddifier les controls en conséquence.
Détestant utiliser le raccourci-clavier de windows pour passer de l'azerty au qwerty,, je me suis toujours demander pourquoi les dev faisait pas un bouton dans la config des touches qui servirais a intervetir la config des touches AZQW avec les touches QWAZ.
Il mest deja arriver dans certain jeu d'avoir des enmerdres apres avoir changer les touches (des menus bloqués à l'utilisation des touches qwerty) ici ça a pas l'air d'etre le cas, mais comme je patauge encore c'est possibilité d'avoir un probleme est clairement d'actualité vu que je découvre le jeu (en direct live, ou presque, héhé).

Edit: bon,, j'ai apparament un probleme. Je regarde la carte que j'ai sur moi, je zoom avec la souris, aucun probleme. Je veut sortir de la carte, j'ai l'indication que je peu utiliser Q mais Q marche pas pour retirer la carte (ça fait rien en faite), je doit utiliser la touche Back(retour) pour je pense avoir le meme effet.

Edit: lisant une brochure,, invité a utiliser WASD pour tourner les pages, A et D fonctionnents mais c'est ceux en azerty donc le A ne sert pas a bouger le personnage donc le A est non intuitif pour tourner les pages dans mon cas.
Je me demande a quoi sert QW.
Dans le menu d'options de contrôles, il y a une option pour changer de QWERTY à AZERTY. Est-ce que tu l'as changé? Si oui, c'est un problème de notre côté que l'on corrigera dans la prochaine mise-à-jour.

ENGLISH: In the "Controls options" menu, there is an option to switch keyboard from QWERTY to AZERTY. Did you change it? If so, this is a bug that we will fix in the next update.
Last edited by Jean-Francois Fiset; Jun 30, 2016 @ 7:14am
bouybouy Jun 25, 2016 @ 3:32pm 
bonjour J-F
C'est pas une option pour changer automatiquement qu'il y a.
Du moins,, je voit que : la possibilité d'attribuer une autre touche à une action.
...note : Je voit pas si un contenu de la page "modif.controlclavier" existe en dessous de la ligne du raccrouci 4 (inventoryshortcut4).
Je suis en 1920x1080.

( english : i searche eu solution pour not have problem de key in the different clavier ) ;)
Last edited by bouybouy; Jul 1, 2016 @ 12:28am
Jean-Francois Fiset  [developer] Jun 26, 2016 @ 4:28am 
Je regarde ça à la première heure demain ;)

ENGLISH: I'll look into it first thing tomorrow ;)
Last edited by Jean-Francois Fiset; Jun 30, 2016 @ 7:13am
Jean-Francois Fiset  [developer] Jun 27, 2016 @ 4:57am 
Originally posted by Fr Bouy:
bonjour J-F
C'est pas une option pour changer automaiquement qu'il y a.
Du moins,, je voit que : la possibilité d'atribuer une autre touche à une action.
...note : Je voit pas si un contenu de la page "modif.controlclavier" existe en dessous de la ligne du raccrouci 4 (inventoryshortcut4).
Je suis en 1920x1080.
Ah, je viens de constater que l'option a été enlevée. J'en fais part à mon équipe dès aujourd'hui!

ENGLISH: I just noticed the option is not available anymore. I'll submit this to my team right away!
Last edited by Jean-Francois Fiset; Jun 30, 2016 @ 7:13am
BadTrip Jun 30, 2016 @ 4:31am 
Firstly, I would appreciate if the dialogue was held in English, please guys?

Secondly, the UI is extremely clunky and you have to use a combination of Keyb+Mouse to select and use things. Mouse only is confirmed as not working. E.g. if I want to equip the torch, I have to press Esc or I and then a combination of WASD to get the arrow to highlight the item. Then it's a hit and miss if left click on the mouse works or if you have to press [Enter].
Dev, you really need to sort this. On PC most people aren't using a controller.
Expected behaviour would be Mouse 3 (e.g.) to bring up dial, move mouse to highligh item and then left to choose.
Last edited by BadTrip; Jun 30, 2016 @ 4:33am
Jean-Francois Fiset  [developer] Jun 30, 2016 @ 7:10am 
Originally posted by BadTrip:
Firstly, I would appreciate if the dialogue was held in English, please guys?

Secondly, the UI is extremely clunky and you have to use a combination of Keyb+Mouse to select and use things. Mouse only is confirmed as not working. E.g. if I want to equip the torch, I have to press Esc or I and then a combination of WASD to get the arrow to highlight the item. Then it's a hit and miss if left click on the mouse works or if you have to press [Enter].
Dev, you really need to sort this. On PC most people aren't using a controller.
Expected behaviour would be Mouse 3 (e.g.) to bring up dial, move mouse to highligh item and then left to choose.
Firstly, some people don't speak English and we want to feel comfortable speaking French in forums (French is our first language). However, it's true that this thread is in English, so I will edit my answers with both languages. I'll try to do it in the future too.
So you have the same issue as @Hobo Jim Yeti? What mouse do you use? By default, WASD don't work in the menu when I use Mouse&Keyboard, I can select items/options with the mouse. It only works if I use a controller and try WASD right after.
The middle mouse button is actually a good idea. The menu is work-in-progress, so we'll see what can be done. Opening the menu with ESC ou I (the I button can be remapped) make sense for us because most of the controls are already on the keyboard. We'll discuss it and see what can be done about it.
Anyway, let me know what mouse you use and we'll try to find out what's causing the issue.
Thanks for your comment!
BadTrip Jun 30, 2016 @ 9:14am 
It's a standard gaming mouse. Nothing fancy. My feeling is though that the game expects me to use a controller.

I can't select anything that is not 45 degrees in the menu mapping. So.. Up, left, down and right is fine. And by holding W+D e.g. I can select things in the top right. However, if you have more items than 8, some of them simply can't be selected. Maybe I'm missing something.

I don't have any other devices connected at the moment (have a G27, but it's not plugged in).

And, yes, I understand that some people don't speak English but there are even more that don't speak French. :steamhappy:

Edit:
I also (sometimes..) can't chose or click on game menus (like after dying..).
The rifle stopped working as well, have 2 bullets left in it but nothing I press will reload it or fire it again (killed 1 wolf with it).
Last edited by BadTrip; Jun 30, 2016 @ 9:17am
Jean-Francois Fiset  [developer] Jun 30, 2016 @ 9:35am 
Originally posted by BadTrip:
It's a standard gaming mouse. Nothing fancy. My feeling is though that the game expects me to use a controller.

I can't select anything that is not 45 degrees in the menu mapping. So.. Up, left, down and right is fine. And by holding W+D e.g. I can select things in the top right. However, if you have more items than 8, some of them simply can't be selected. Maybe I'm missing something.

I don't have any other devices connected at the moment (have a G27, but it's not plugged in).

And, yes, I understand that some people don't speak English but there are even more that don't speak French. :steamhappy:

Edit:
I also (sometimes..) can't chose or click on game menus (like after dying..).
The rifle stopped working as well, have 2 bullets left in it but nothing I press will reload it or fire it again (killed 1 wolf with it).
What is the brand/model of your mouse? We don't think the mouse is the problem, but probably something on our side that doesn't work with it or something.
For the rifle, did you put some ammo and/or your gun in the pickup trunk at some point? In the meantime, we'll try to replicate the issue here.
BadTrip Jun 30, 2016 @ 9:49am 
It's a Roccat Tyon.

Thanks for the quick replies guys.
Jean-Francois Fiset  [developer] Jun 30, 2016 @ 11:29am 
So I had a theory and it seems like it might be it: the game detects your mouse (or some of its controls) as a controller. Since our game allows both controller and Mouse&Keyboard, it becomes a bit of an issue in game menus. WASD plays the role of the joystick instead of the mouse because the latter is considered as a secondary controller.
We will try to work something out on our side, but in the meantime, we found a post from another game's forums that might help: https://na.portal.sf.my.com/comments/55a247cd379882c0745d322d?page=1. We found it by googling "Roccat Tyon showing as controller". Not sure it will work, but I guess it's worth a shot.
Let me know if it works!
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