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"I didn't prove anything, maybe you should go watch TL;DR other videos before claiming victory in an internet debate and maybe you shouldn't guesstimate my opinion from 5 line in a forum."
You can't go back on what you said now. WTF. You are contradicting your own statement to spite me for no reason.
You told me what they were, and gave me links to look at.
How the hell is me explaining that you already told me what they were is a bad thing.
You literally explained to me what they are, and then he said they're completely different, and I asked him to provide evidence that counters what you said, I.e that proves you wrong.
Seriously, you can't tell me one thing, and then turn around and completely ignore what you said!
That's not how that works.
Please tell me why you're insulting me after all I did was explain that you already told me what they are.
Seriously, tell me how the hell that makes any kind of sense!
What am I doing wrong. At least tell me that. You can't tell me something, and have me use that as the basis of my statements, and then turn around and completely contradict what you said!
Seriously, why completely contradict what you said and use it against me. You're on the opposite side of Boulder on this issue.
Either this group is not as bad as you claim, or they are.
There is no middle ground here. But it makes even less sense that you're attacking me when all I ever did was point out that you told me one thing, and that he would have to prove you wrong in order to prove this group is not as bad.
I just want to know how I misunderstood what you said. Because that is the only way your second statement above makes any sense.
Oh ok well you guys do seem a lot alike. You go after hoe bags and easy girls or materialistic women and expect class. If you cant weed out the spoiled women then that is your error on your part. If you cant out think a woman then ♥♥♥♥.. lol. Your bad at managing your house.
Trust and loyality is most importent. Not looks or interests. Control must be maintained and you must be aware of what is going on in your house. Always involve her in what you do. As a man you are the king of your house. You must not let dominion slip from your grasp.
hahaha.. ok...,,,
Seriously now...
You have horrible taste in women and you should find a girl who knows hard work and knows how to value that hard work and always protect and provide. That is your job. Shes not expected to do much.. Theres no such thing as equality again.. Really it the simplest way to tell you jerks. Never going to happen. Poverity is a thing and so is rich. Never the two shall meet and be equal. Same with genders. Same thing every where you look in this universe, We see this imbalance every where. Great and small.
Feminists made bad choices.. dated ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and jerks now they are in their late 20, 30's pissed ofdf at sugar daddies that used them and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who wasted there time. Madtows are jerks d-bag ♥♥♥♥.. who are "nice guys" who cant talk to women. were simps.. and landed a hot gf or wife and gave her everything, spoiled her and treated her well, but that was your mistake. Deal with your error and stfu and be a man. Men don't ♥♥♥♥♥.
They lick their wounds in a corner and rethink and correct their error.
For everyone here. Never trust another man he is your competition and never forget that.
Your will must be steal and your domination of your house must be kept. ;)
What happened is you decided to ignore the part where the statement can be understood in a neutral way and just saw what agreed with your point of view, but that's my own fault I shouldn't have expected any more from a random person on the internet, I'm also not insulting you unless you deem telling you that your assumption were wrong is insulting you, it doesn't make you look insane but it sure does make you look like someone who can't see past the black&white, "us versus them" mentality where there's no place for someone who doesn't fully agree with one side or the other.
Most MADTOWs are in their 30's.. Gee whats the most common age of marriage... Hmmm oh geee.. idk... do you? lol.
Seriously you should do the math. So you can rethink that silly statement of yours.
I'm sorry for misunderstanding your statement.
For that I apologize.
I did not actually realize that.
I don't even have any bias here to begin with, since all I did was ask what they were.
I don't even have a point of view here, other than misogyny is bad.
Again, I am sorry for misunderstanding you.
But since I had no bias here, other than the obvious and logical one, :), I don't know how I was guilty of the us versus them mentality.
I'm sorry though, for getting upset, I have Asperger's, and I have a complete lack of understanding of social cues, and that includes apparently the neutral way of reading things.
I really didn't mean to have any bias, I'm not Fox News, you know. :)
I just though Boulder was saying women are bad, and I get tunnel vision sometimes as well.
Don't feel so bad. These madtows lack any or all social cues of weeding out abusive women. Then ♥♥♥♥♥ about it 5 years later on the youtubes.
Sources are in video descriptions and content (I guess you'll decide if they suite what you consider "valid")
Feminist arguments disproven (source links in descriptions) Sargon of Akkad is not a MGTOW but is strongly against SJW BS and feminism
Why Do People Hate #Feminism? #1 - Feminists Hate Men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua8T4nSTCWA
Why Do People Hate #Feminism? #2 - The Patriarchy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrfkoGCK0SE
Why Do People Hate #Feminism? #3 - The Gender Pay Gap (#EqualPayDay)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T09Bx6xoHSQ
Why Do People Hate #Feminism? #4 - Gender Studies Degrees
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaid4utCQGw
Society Bias against men and boys and male/female dynamics(you can decide whether these qualify as needed factual information.)
More on the presumption of motherhood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El85tFbeA44
On Ludicrous Women's Quotas and Aviation...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=220szIBNulA
Political Correctness and Female Hypervigilance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsY9MipXg_o
Why MGTOW is the Way Forward...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCojVu1rslg
Briffault's Law Contract and Supply and Demand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqSCRnrq5I0
Manimony uploaded without content to avoid youtube ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLUhmQHE4U4
It is obvious that you do not have an argument. Just more rambling. As always the insults begin where arguments end....
Equality is a myth perpetuated by ideals that are not grounded in reality. Feminism claims it wants men and women to be equal. However how can men and women be equal if they are not the same? Feminism is based off of feelings rather than reason if it wants men and women to be equal.
The biological functions of a female and male are not up for debate and shouldn't be because they cannot be altered with mere words. Some brands of Feminism suggest equality in areas where there is equal performance. That could be agreed to by many across the globe. However, in modern America we still have significantly different expectations for females and males. This is the case and will remain the case.
Let us be honest, why did majority of women enter the workforce after World War II? It has to do with America becoming a consumer society which has made work and daily life much easier for all of us. Take away the consumer society, modern America wouldn't be as nice as it is now. Feminism is a mere side effect of gynocentrism and industrialization. If not for our luxurious society, could such ideas be even taken seriously?
I wonder where the argument “you can’t generalize” comes from. Isn’t this the most idiotic idea in the world? And it escapes from people’s lips without even a thought of what they are doing or saying. Of course you can generalize. In fact, you must generalize. To fail to generalize is to demand that all things must only be regarded in terms of the lowest common denominator. The lowest common denominator doesn’t particularly lead to the highest pinnacles we can achieve, does it?
The “you can’t generalize” zealots don’t seem to have really thought things through very well. They are thinking one-dimensionally. A more complex, and more proper way of thinking is that “there are individual groups and there are individuals within those groups.”
For example, saying something like “women have larger breasts than men” is a sweeping generalization. But, it is a true one – even though some women have smaller breasts than some men. In the collective group of “women” there will be some individual women who have small breasts, while in the collective group of “men” there will be some porky men sporting a set of man-boobs. But only an idiot would try to cherry pick a flat chested woman and stand her next to a man-boobed male and claim that this is in any way a reflection of human intellectualism, therefore, we should not say that “women have larger breasts than men” anymore. It is lunacy! The only thing we might be able to learn then is that “both men and women have nipples.” Wow! Stop everything right there! The Tower of Babel is already reaching into the heavens! What more could we possibly learn? Generalizations are absolutely necessary in order to learn anything.
Of course, what one cannot do is take one individual and generalize that the entire group resembles that individual. Take Marc Lepine, for example. Feminists have been screeching for over two decades now that Marc Lepine is “proof” of the murderous hatred men harbor for women. Now that is pure lunacy. The actions of one man are in no way a reflection of the mentality of the 15,000,000 other men who live in Canada. That is a wrong generalization.
But, to say that men are taller or heavier than women? Yes, this is a proper generalization, because the majority of men are taller and heavier than the majority of women – even though in some individual cases, you will be able to see a taller or heavier woman than a man.
We generalize that “birds fly.” But you can’t generalize like that! Don’t you know that Emus, Ostriches, Kiwis and Penguins don’t fly? This is such a lame argument, and it ought to be obvious even to the simplest of simpletons that any biologist worth his salt must necessarily generalize that “birds fly.” Look up, grasshopper… not down!
Many of the arguments that get put forward in regard to sensitive issues (like the War of the Sexes) automatically get dismissed with the intellectually retarded retort, “you can’t generalize like that.” That’s Nonsense.
In fact, no-one is going to figure out one damn thing about anything if they fail to generalize. Ignoring the similar actions/traits/situations in 80% of the cases because 20% of the cases do not coincide… well… how is that going to make you smarter? Huh?
The thing to keep in mind is that there are individual groups (ie. men and women), and there are individuals within those groups. The way to learn something is to recognize that the trait of the group follows in “this” direction, even though there are individual exceptions which follow “that” direction. It’s time to stop looking for the lowest common denominator. Tell people who use the “generalizing argument” to shut the hell up. In general, those people don’t have two brain cells to rub together and aren’t worth listening to anyways. There are individual groups, and there are individuals within those groups.
“If it’s not right, go your own way!
“Meanwhile,
As long as there’s one honest woman living at the temple atop Mount NAWALT in Tibet…”
— Every White Knight mangina ever
I told you how is in the real world. Take your genders stuidies ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and shove it. Your just like the feminist. As feminist misguide women with agenda which always has a political goal in mind.
Mgtows does the same. Just instead of your targets being the minds of women. Your targets are the minds of men.
You disgust me. Just like the feminists or any political extremists group. You have the right to state your case, but that doesn't protect you from being judged and shunned for your distasteful misguided and shallow behavior.
For once i'd like sandman or stardust to speak about good women in a postive light. The women that is selfless and protectively loyal. Theres more women who stand by their man then you give them credit. Talk about the women men should be aiming for those types of personalities those good women tend to share. How to act around women. Heres a hint. Never show weakness. If you do thats sure fire way too lose her respect. Give these guys a solution.
You know as well as i know mgtow is not about finding solutions just creating more divide and conquer tactics on the political battle field. Dividing the population up to fight with eachother so the elites can rob us blind and take away our rights. By distracting us with this garbage while passing laws that are not in the public's interests. I see the shell game both mgtow and feminists are playing. This is as grey are it gets in the world. If people laugh about what i am saying off, then they are fools to not concider it them selves.
Show your faces for once. Johntheother atleast shows him self.
You faceless mgtows could be anyone with any agenda. Same could be said for gamer gate personalities like TL;DR. I hate how sargon and mundane matt, AI hide their faces. They could be anyone working for anyone with an agenda.
however, the last person in this forum to say Feminism was bad was an obvious troll, so you might want to not agree with trolls. :)
I cam point out his messages, but since he's banned, he's not exactly someone you want to agree with. :)
I'm just saying, Feminism is about Equality, and that has always been the case.
No one can be taken seriously if they ignore the entire point.
But again, thanks for the links, I consider them valid.
Until I find something to counter them.
-Throws a Smosh-
lol. so because women are liberated their behavior is degrading, and divorce rates are women's fault?
the divorce rates are high because its an outdated social construct forced upon by older generations, mainly driven by religion, which is also slowly being phased out as more and more poeple are scientifically educated.
As for degrading female behavior, not sure what that even means. is there some sort of approved type of behavior a whole gender is supposed to follow?
Cool, want equality? Get rid of poverity, and rich. Also pump women with male hormones and restructure their upper body so it matches a man.
Also want equality? Get rid of capitalism. Because capitalism is based on inepuality and needs inequality to survive.
Again madtow uses scare tactics to scare men away from women because they are bitter about the stories they and choices they made in their lives.
They dated superfacial women who were as materialistic as these magtows are. Sandman talks about how much money he makes and how he dated hot attractive women who were materialistic. Then bicthes about why it didn't work because of "her" shallow nature, but if you listen carefully to his stories and his perspective he is just as shallow as these women. I met so many phorographers like him in my education and professional life. He was the type flirted with every pretty girl; and got them naked for a shoot in school. Sandman is one of these guys. He's just as much as a huge ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ he bashes.
Theres tons of women from working class families who are great women who are grounded and know how to be in relationships.
You can try to discredit me by saying i am a troll, but this how i honestly see madtow the way it is. If you think i am whipped. LOL. That is not the case. If i see a woman who is acting entitled. I drop her like a ton of bricks and walk away from that ♥♥♥♥. lol. I will tell a woman she is wrong when whiteknights bash me for pointing it out. I do this all the time.
I do not treat women or men differently i treat them the same and always have. If they say something stupid i will let a woman know that it is stupid. None of you would do that.
Because i live in the real world and i rarely see men do that. I do see men defending said women for their bad behavior. That is where you madtows have failed. By rewarding bad behavior by women dating them or not is what is the crux of your problem. All madtows say is "women are the gatekeepers of sex".
No they aren't not by a long shot. That is some "nice guy" "i am too scared to talk to women and i am bitter" nonsesne.
Just like the feminists. Madtow calls anyone with a real serious opinion on the subject that destroys it with real facts and proof in the real world. Madtow is just like the feminists calling people like me who are grounded and based in reality as a "troll".
Nice shell game Madtow.
This game was probably and most likely pushed out by madtow to start a discussion in gaming about madtow lol.
Madtow is the same as the feminism. You can draw straight lines between the two connecting their similarities.
The only person these madtows have convinced is some dupe who is mentally insane with aspergers. aspergers btwe is not a real illness it is the same tactic americans used in eugenics and the same labeling as the nazis used to prove the jews were lesser then them as with american eugenics in the early 1900's.
Aspergers is coming from the same medical science community that locked up and tortured people in the 70's and 80's for saying. The US government was spying on our phones and internet connections collecting our data. Guess what? Snowden released and leaked secret information that says the us governemnets been doing it since 1973. The government admted it was true. So how many doctors killed and tortured innocent people for telling the truth?
Take off your blinders folks. Take the red pill. The real red pill. Youtube is never going to teach anything.. Just manipulate you. Want to learn about real stuff in the real world? Read about how these government think tanks and government programs.
^
(that are all public information because they are paid for my public tax money.)
You see how youtube is more of a proganda tool then anything else. It is more for pushing agendas and marketing ideas and products. This is why youtubers make a ♥♥♥♥ load of money.
Look at sargon of a akkad he lived in the ghetto has no job as he claims and he started making videos bashing feminists. Then switch over to gamergate after riding that trend pushing his agenda. He is now a home owner who just bought a house. lol. Meanwhile he has no job in the real world. Another university grad with a youtube channel. lol. Are you all begining to catch on yet? Follow the money folks.