Quitters

[Herr Carter]

I can't say that I've never quit a match, but it is usually because my son needs something. However, so many people quit right before they are about to lose. What nonsense is this? Is it really better to quit than to lose honorably? Is it refreshing to take your ball home so that others can't play? Grow up, please.

[môrgondír]

I guess it depends on what you mean by 'quit'.

If you mean 'concede', through the mechanism in the game, then I don't see why that option would be any less (or more) honorable than any other way the game could end.

Alternatively, if there's another way to quit, e.g. exiting the game client -- then any shortcoming arising from forcing the winning player to wait while the client determines how to resolve the situation is a problem with the client and poor application of game logic to resolve the situation by auto-conceding the quitting player. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the player or their motives, feelings, lack of honor, or anything else.

[Cheese Merchant]

Saves time

[Dysmetria]

Meh if we have no cards that will prevent you from winning on your turn, what is wrong with conceding, rather than waste both our time while you take however long and play however many uneccessary cards on your last turn?

We aren't taking our ball and going home, we are taking our deck and going to play someone else we have a chance of beating with it. I guess we have different definitions of honor. My honor prevents me from whining uselessly about nothing in a forum. But consider this time I wasted replying to your unneccessary thread compensaton for all the time of mine you didn't get to waste playing that unnecessary last turn.

[ᴛʜ3ᴘʀᴀᴠᴀᴛᴏ]

Originally posted by Herr Carter:

I can't say that I've never quit a match, but it is usually because my son needs something. However, so many people quit right before they are about to lose. What nonsense is this? Is it really better to quit than to lose honorably? Is it refreshing to take your ball home so that others can't play? Grow up, please.

I wish they introduced a seppuku mechanic when someone lose.

[shadowsouls12]

didn't know we are a bunch of kligons. it's a digtal card game.

[eRe4s3r]

Heh I concede about 10% of all matches exactly for the reason Dysmetria already explained, when I played my last card and clear lethal on the board I concede. It's a waste of time to continue that match. Conversely I am actually surprised how many people think they are Klingons and HAVE to fight each match to the bitter end.

If you have little time, conceding on a clear loss situation is faster too.

[Metalium]

Originally posted by Der Wehrwolf:

Are you expecting Generation-Z to act honorably? They do not even grasp the etymology.

Or that humans were born with bar code...

[vejetto]

It's not always considered disrespectful. In fact dragging out a match that is lopsided isn't respectful. Quitting in this scenario shows a respect for both individuals time and lets them move on to new matches rather than forcing a death by paper cuts.

[Slaaght]

As I've played more and more I've changed my outlook on suiciding.

I will usually quit honourably with a "thanks" or "good game" response if my opponent is taking too long to kill me. Depends if they've responded to "hello" etc. during the game. If my opponenet has made no attempt to respod to any sociabilty, I usually won't bother back.

"Manners maketh the man" as they say.

If I have no runes left, no guards with effects etc, then get in and kill me quickly as I have no possible come backs, don't try to build up something and take ages doing it.

You're welcome to terminate me in a card or two, if I have 1 or 2 health left and you have an 8-8 just use it, don't waste mine and your time totally over cooking things!

[regge1]

It‘s the best to celebrate a sure win with every card you can play on the last turn. I love to show the opponent what else i could have done. For me it is respectful from the opponent when he/she waits and watches my celebration because i‘m the winner and it is a card game that makes fun and nobody should take it to seriously. If i don‘t have the time to wait 20 seconds on the last turn then i think about stop playing games because i have no time for playing.

[Slaaght]

PS - I will never suicide with a rune left as previously that has totally turned the game around for me from a completely impossible situation to a (scraped!) win.

[shadowshiv]

I will concede if there is no possible way for me to survive. Why should I waste my time (or the opponent's)? You win the game either way. Dishonours you? Give me a break. This is a card game that I play for fun, not for honour.

And the other side of the coin is that there have been a LOT of times where I have passed my turn and waited for them to kill me with the one creature that will do it. Instead they play all sorts of cards, buffing them, or playing cards that change other cards, and THEN attack. I've had enough of that BMing, thank you.

I've also been in games where they are overwhelmingly ahead of me. They have 100 life to my 10 life, 8 creatures on the board to my 0 creatures on the board. Should I just sit there and hit pass every turn until I run out of cards? Because the opponent is sure as hell not going to kill me. They play around trying to get their cards bigger and bigger or so they can hit their "awesome combo". Nope. I'm not going to wait for that either. Conceding is good, BMing is bad. Conceding is NOT BM.

[shadowshiv]

Originally posted by regge1:

It‘s the best to celebrate a sure win with every card you can play on the last turn. I love to show the opponent what else i could have done. For me it is respectful from the opponent when he/she waits and watches my celebration because i‘m the winner and it is a card game that makes fun and nobody should take it to seriously. If i don‘t have the time to wait 20 seconds on the last turn then i think about stop playing games because i have no time for playing. :hoji_smile:

And the opponent LOVES it when you do that. It's called BM for a reason. It's supposed to be fun for both players, is it not?

[shadowsouls12]

why care about honour in a solo digital card game?

solo no teamates. can understand sticking around in a losing game. if you have teamates, but a solo game. the other player can just move on to another game. seems some players just want to brag about how they can destory you.

we can't ask you why you want to drag a game out. is it becuase you want to do your dallies or just brag about your great combo. we can only emote.

this game isn't about life and death it's a digital card game. it a solo game. take the win and move on. now if you had to wait 5 minutes for a game, maybe complain about quitting.

regge1 that 20 second i could be playing another game.instead of waiting to see your other finishing moves.

[Lance]

Wow! I don't get this attitude. If you don't concede when you realize you have no path to victory.. you're being a complete jackass that is just trying to waste your opponents time.

That is the standard of polite gamesmanship that has existed since these games were first created, and it applies to digital card games as much as it did when we were playing with printed cards.