The Elder Scrolls: Legends

The Elder Scrolls: Legends

Half Slav 3/set./2017 às 12:04
No skill, luck game.
This game is a joke...After 70H in this game that is all I can say.There are no skilled players..only lucky and unlucky ones..I have seen so many people that talk about skills and deck building ..thats a joke...and those new cards are OP trash..so they removed that little " skill" out of the game..Like with the pure blood elder and so on..I think those devs think the community is really stupid or something to put such OP cards out.
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no this game is gamble, and is trying to colect people who are easy adicted to gamble.
False Prophet 3/set./2017 às 14:05 
Escrito originalmente por FirePickle:
no this game is gamble, and is trying to colect people who are easy adicted to gamble.

lol if you hate the came so much why are you inthe forums? I saw you whining a few days ago too. Both of you are wrong.
Zsrai 3/set./2017 às 14:30 
Escrito originalmente por Prince of Saiyans:
lol if you hate the came so much why are you inthe forums? I saw you whining a few days ago too. Both of you are wrong.

All Firepickle does is whine and complain in terrible english, I swear he's just a bad troll because no one can be that consistently stupid.

As for the OP, it sounds like someone lost to a bad draw and is throwing a fit. Nothing new here.
Half Slav 3/set./2017 às 14:35 
Escrito originalmente por Zsrai:
Escrito originalmente por Prince of Saiyans:
lol if you hate the came so much why are you inthe forums? I saw you whining a few days ago too. Both of you are wrong.

All Firepickle does is whine and complain in terrible english, I swear he's just a bad troll because no one can be that consistently stupid.

As for the OP, it sounds like someone lost to a bad draw and is throwing a fit. Nothing new here.
His English is bad but not all people need to know 'Merican..There are other countries in the world that don't speak English as native so please be a grammar nazi somewhere else.But he is right..it is a gamble..and you are right as well I did have more then one bad draw and it can get you mad.But all in all..Pay to win all the way...I respect good players without those "op" RL money cards and those guys can show you a thing or two..not the wanna be pros dat spend their parents money to be in rank 1 or whatever.
False Prophet 3/set./2017 às 14:46 
Escrito originalmente por Covenant Siege Merchant:
Escrito originalmente por Zsrai:

All Firepickle does is whine and complain in terrible english, I swear he's just a bad troll because no one can be that consistently stupid.

As for the OP, it sounds like someone lost to a bad draw and is throwing a fit. Nothing new here.
His English is bad but not all people need to know 'Merican..There are other countries in the world that don't speak English as native so please be a grammar nazi somewhere else.But he is right..it is a gamble..and you are right as well I did have more then one bad draw and it can get you mad.But all in all..Pay to win all the way...I respect good players without those "op" RL money cards and those guys can show you a thing or two..not the wanna be pros dat spend their parents money to be in rank 1 or whatever.


Lol only comes back to respond to comments that arent mine because he knows he is completely wrong and has no rebuttal.
Metadragon 3/set./2017 às 15:12 
Escrito originalmente por Covenant Siege Merchant:
Its a luck game after all and pay to win..Yeah I stop you before you say..You can buy cards and packs with gold ..you can but,you need to farm for days -months-years..of you can pay cash and have full decks with 3 legendarys cards..same as the darkbrotherhood is pay to play too, so its the deck...skills play a little role there..if you get a bad 1st hand and continue to get useless cards that are good but not proper for the situation,
HAHAHA not farming Twtich Drops? For 70 hours you never once saw a thread regarding Twitch? Oh man. Before you start complaining why dont you do even a modicum of research. I have barely 10 hours and I have run out of things to buy with gold. One week of twitch drops and I did what you claimed took months and years.
Última edição por Metadragon; 3/set./2017 às 15:14
Half Slav 3/set./2017 às 15:29 
Escrito originalmente por Metadragon:
Escrito originalmente por Covenant Siege Merchant:
Its a luck game after all and pay to win..Yeah I stop you before you say..You can buy cards and packs with gold ..you can but,you need to farm for days -months-years..of you can pay cash and have full decks with 3 legendarys cards..same as the darkbrotherhood is pay to play too, so its the deck...skills play a little role there..if you get a bad 1st hand and continue to get useless cards that are good but not proper for the situation,
HAHAHA not farming Twtich Drops? For 70 hours you never once saw a thread regarding Twitch? Oh man. Before you start complaining why dont you do even a modicum of research. I have barely 10 hours and I have run out of things to buy with gold. One week of twitch drops and I did what you claimed took months and years.

Thanks I did not know I will look into it...plus I think alot of people don't know that..But you and that Prince dude keep remind me why I dislike to talk with basic Americans..rude and aggressive with no reason and you keep wonder why people have a bad picture of you lol.This should be a support forum :) Cheers.
False Prophet 3/set./2017 às 15:32 
Escrito originalmente por Covenant Siege Merchant:
Escrito originalmente por Metadragon:
HAHAHA not farming Twtich Drops? For 70 hours you never once saw a thread regarding Twitch? Oh man. Before you start complaining why dont you do even a modicum of research. I have barely 10 hours and I have run out of things to buy with gold. One week of twitch drops and I did what you claimed took months and years.

Thanks I did not know I will look into it...plus I think alot of people don't know that..But you and that Prince dude keep remind me why I dislike to talk with basic Americans..rude and aggressive with no reason and you keep wonder why people have a bad picture of you lol.This should be a support forum :) Cheers.

I am agressive? You came in here pretty much sayin the game I have been playing for the lat year is no skill and all luck. You just insulted the entire player base, and I am the agressive one?

I will apologizr for being a ♥♥♥♥ right off the bat, but you have done NO research into this game, and then give it a negative review, and cry on the forums. You ignored all the legitimate counter points i have made, and are now ignoring me because you have no argument to make. I cant stand poeple like you who are wilfully ignorant.
Última edição por False Prophet; 3/set./2017 às 15:45
Cryptic 3/set./2017 às 16:40 
"How do you measure skill in this game?"

By looking at someone's winrate, ladder rank, and performance in tournaments, particularly when they're consistent over a period of multiple months. Same as you do in any other competitive endeavour.

Oh, right, I forgot, you're European. I guess it'd take too long to explain the concept of succeessfully competing at anything. Tell you what, we'll just set up a Euroleague and you can all have the same rank and get Germany to pay for all the card packs in return for telling you what plays to make.
Zsrai 3/set./2017 às 17:00 
Escrito originalmente por Covenant Siege Merchant:
His English is bad but not all people need to know 'Merican..There are other countries in the world that don't speak English as native so please be a grammar nazi somewhere else.

Sure, because writing perfect English was my entire point. Stop being a pedantic assclown.

Escrito originalmente por Covenant Siege Merchant:
(...)why I dislike to talk with basic Americans..rude and aggressive with no reason and you keep wonder why people have a bad picture of you lol

Oh, never mind then. You're just an uneducated, "basic European" to borrow your terminology.
Metadragon 3/set./2017 às 17:39 
Escrito originalmente por Covenant Siege Merchant:
Escrito originalmente por Metadragon:
HAHAHA not farming Twtich Drops? For 70 hours you never once saw a thread regarding Twitch? Oh man. Before you start complaining why dont you do even a modicum of research. I have barely 10 hours and I have run out of things to buy with gold. One week of twitch drops and I did what you claimed took months and years.

Thanks I did not know I will look into it...plus I think alot of people don't know that..But you and that Prince dude keep remind me why I dislike to talk with basic Americans..rude and aggressive with no reason and you keep wonder why people have a bad picture of you lol.This should be a support forum :) Cheers.
People think Americans are rude and you know... ♥♥♥♥ you.

For my part I find people who are uninformed yet contintue to ♥♥♥♥♥ about solved problems far more annoying. You are the very definition of "Stop liking what I hate" guy.

If you dont like it write a negative review and move on. If you are confused or dont understand something thats when you come to the discussion board so you can try and get better. You elected to do neither and simply complained.
LunarisRuin 3/set./2017 às 19:45 
Escrito originalmente por Covenant Siege Merchant:
Its a luck game after all and pay to win..

(TL;DR : Every card game in person or online is pay-to-win / luck based. ESL is very free-to-play friendly with several different ways to craft cards, gain gold, gems and packs. From Arena, Gauntlet, and Rumble, to grinding the A.I. and daily quests, to grinding Twitch Drops. Also, you can climb to legend with budget friendly decks, and hell, you can get to legend with Paarthurnaxs Roar, the premade deck you can buy for 500g! So it's not as pay-to-win as it may look at first.)

Every card game in real life, and in video game form, are in some way, shape or form, pay-to-win and luck based.

That is *literally* an innate part of any card game.

I have, and never will understand posts like this.

But, I will say, you can win by skill, but of course there is luck thrown in there, because you never know what you're gonna draw, that's precisely the *luck* part of card games (among other things, such as Thief of Dreams, for example, where the cards 'skill' is sort of and/or is a gamble.), even in real life you never know what you will draw from your decks(unless you're cheating IRL), and it can quite literally make or break you in certain situations.

Pay-to-win, both online and in person because, let's face it, in every card game ever to exist, you buy booster packs or "promotional" tins looking for the cards you want, making your decks stronger and just collecting the cards.

I would argue Elder Scrolls: Legends is one of the more free-to-play friendly online card games out there.

You get daily quests randomly worth 30 - 70g each, which isn't bad I think. Hearthstone has a SLIGHT edge simply because they have a single quest that's worth 100g, but anyway, back on track.

You can farm the A.I. everyday if you REALLY want gems to create new cards, you can just craft hyper aggressive "anti- A.I." decks to stomp them and continue to do so until you finally hit the limit at 600 gems.

That's not too bad, I must say. If you dedicated your time to grinding the A.I. you can make 1 Legendary/Unique card per two days, OR a set of 3 copies of an epic card, or 3 copies of 2 different rare cards, or 3 copies of 4 common cards per two days.

You can also play Arena once you get situated with the game and start gaining a better understanding of the game and its cards, as the entrance fee is 150g (compared to the 100g to buy a single pack of your choice) and you only need like 3 or 4 wins I believe it was to break even. You'll earn a pack (there's your 100g right there.) plus you will win something like 30 - 40g (even greater rewards with higher win counts) ...and like 30 soul gems.

That right there is worth the 150g, you got a pack, some gold and some gems and broke even.

Or even play the special "Rumbles" they host once in awhile, I forget which is which, I think Gauntlet is the one with lesser rewards than Rumble but it has more value than Arena regardless, Rumble I believe if you can somehow reach the top 3 you get an INSANE amount of packs, like 30 or 40 packs. Gauntlet if you get rank 1 you get 10 packs.

Additionally, you can just watch Twitch to further your understanding of the game or simply put it in the background on silent and low resolution while you play or do other things and you can earn rewards for it.

It USED to be one reward, approximately per day, and you could earn 1 of 3 rewards, those being:

1. 600g
2. 1,500 gems
3. 1 random legendary card

But they kinda nerfed/buffed it depending on how you view it (are you a glass half-empty kind of guy, or glass-half full)

Now it's estimated every 6 hours you can earn a reward, but now you earn lesser rewards, for example you might get 100g or 100 gems, or even less than that, in addition to the original 3 rewards.

So you can still get 600g, or a free legendary but, there's lesser rewards thrown in, and you can get 2 or even 3 rewards in a single day.

So make of that what you will, some people really like the change, other people really HATE the change and literally quit because of it.

Also, there's a monthly card for playing ranked, at ranks 9, 5 and 1 you can get 1, 2, or 3 copies of the card respectively and as far as I know, it's always an Epic rarity card.

PLUS, you can buy premade decks for 500g each, with each deck containing a Legendary and several epics and rares, which that alone makes it VERY worthwhile to grind the gold to get those decks.

But anyway, there's a multitude of ways to get cards or gems or gold.

If you're frustrated with the game just keep trucking through, (unless you're not having fun), and you can craft any card/deck you want.


Última edição por LunarisRuin; 3/set./2017 às 20:22
Nevron 3/set./2017 às 21:05 
One thing I've noticed from watching the streaming games on Twitch is that many of the top players consistently check the opposing players graveyard as the game progresses. They look at how many of a certain card has been played as well as what hasn't been played yet and make mental notes as to what they can expect. Just like counting cards in blackjack these players know what they can expect from their opponent based on the colors of their deck and what they've played so far (which gives them an idea of what kind of deck type they're playing). It's not exact but it does help in winning. Sure some luck is invloved as you never know what your opening hand will look like, but knowing the main deck types and what cards go in them helps in anticipating what your opponent will play which in turn helps you react to their cards better.
Zsrai 3/set./2017 às 22:16 
Escrito originalmente por Nevron:
One thing I've noticed from watching the streaming games on Twitch is that many of the top players consistently check the opposing players graveyard as the game progresses. They look at how many of a certain card has been played as well as what hasn't been played yet and make mental notes as to what they can expect. Just like counting cards in blackjack these players know what they can expect from their opponent based on the colors of their deck and what they've played so far (which gives them an idea of what kind of deck type they're playing). It's not exact but it does help in winning. Sure some luck is invloved as you never know what your opening hand will look like, but knowing the main deck types and what cards go in them helps in anticipating what your opponent will play which in turn helps you react to their cards better.

It's this, and this is also why sometimes the non- or anti-meta decks can really throw people for a loop. They bring unexpected card combos or deck types and can rack up some wins before people "catch on" to what's in the deck. It's also why sometimes playing Casual for quests can be an exercise in frustration with all of the non-meta and unoptimized decks in play there.
Gankatron 4/set./2017 às 1:04 
While the OP's point is overstated, there is a strong thread of truth in their statement, and Bethesda has designed the game to not only favor luck, but also to foster what Roger Dickey of Zygna fame terms "fun pain".

Take a 50-card deck to start, which compared to 30 card minimum decks dilutes out the probability of scoring multi-card synergies.

But the biggest luck generating factor in Legends is the overtly unbalanced 3-point crystal advantage given to the "second" player, who more often than not will actually go first only with a 3-point advantage that they can carry throughout the match as they see fit.

These 2 factors result in:

- increased luck factor
- imbalanced advantage for the "second" player

Why would Bethesda want to have an imbalanced game?
Última edição por Gankatron; 4/set./2017 às 1:23
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