Gorebulls are to strong

[Avocadius]

I had a match with brit against beast men today. He brought some spears and 3 gorebulls. I brought man at arms, spears, "6units" of archers, a damsel 2 paladins and my lord on the best hippogryph. On the paper i brought everything what i need to beat the beast men right? The game starts i sniped his general instant and then used my archers with focus fire on the gorebulls. Nothing happened. Then i used the armor debuff from the damsel multiple times( overcast) nothing. I used my air units for rear charges on his inf but the cain route, in the ranks of the inf, dosn't effect the gorebulls at all. After all his inf units toke out of the fight i had more than 30% of my army hit points left. He only used his gore bulls. Again focus fire and spears facing them. I lost. Not one gorebull died in this battle. And he only charged into my spears and kill everything. Even still standing spears don't make a different. This unit is fast, have great armor, can take potions, is cheaper than a giant and harder to kill as a giant. This unit needs a nerf. Take armor from it, make it more expensive or whatever, but please, CA do anything.

[Stephen]

Gorebulls are pretty rough, which is ironic because they were terrible in the tabletop. Playing as the Beastmen, Gorebulls have basically carried my campaign.

[SleepyNarwhalz]

Its not so much that gore bulls are too good its more that brettonia is the worst faction.

[Avocadius]

Originally posted by SleepyNarwhalz:

Its not so much that gore bulls are too good its more that brettonia is the worst faction.

Dude, it works against every faction and this on a very high level. This unit is too strong for the costs.

[SleepyNarwhalz]

Originally posted by Avocadius:

Originally posted by SleepyNarwhalz:

Its not so much that gore bulls are too good its more that brettonia is the worst faction.

Dude, it works against every faction and this on a very high level. This unit is too strong for the costs.

Well then I guess I've just never had a competent player use it against me because when they do I find them very easy to kill.

[Harukage]

Gorebulls can excel when left alone, he will die very fast when focused. No amount of potions gonna save him. That is basicaly how all minotaurs work. Not to mention that everything from amber spear to luminak will slay gorebull in seconds. And do not forget about cannons.

[Shandor]

Originally posted by Stephen:

Gorebulls are pretty rough, which is ironic because they were terrible in the tabletop. Playing as the Beastmen, Gorebulls have basically carried my campaign.

What Minotaurus was that with 2+ Armor and every armor safe passed they got an extra Attack? Was it the Doombull or something? Those Bastard killed an entire 40 man unit alone in the last battle i had agains Beastman on Tabletop.

@ Topic. The Gorebull has Skills against shooting. Its kinda useless to try to kill him with archers. Use some Elite units or Heroes/leaders.

[Avocadius]

Originally posted by Harukage:

Gorebulls can excel when left alone, he will die very fast when focused. No amount of potions gonna save him. That is basicaly how all minotaurs work. Not to mention that everything from amber spear to luminak will slay gorebull in seconds. And do not forget about cannons.

That's only possible against bad players. If there is somekind of destraction for the art the gorebulls will conect and slay luminarks and heros.If the map favros art to much you will not do this build anyway.

Originally posted by Shandor:

Originally posted by Stephen:

@ Topic. The Gorebull has Skills against shooting. Its kinda useless to try to kill him with archers. Use some Elite units or Heroes/leaders.

3Gorebulls have no problems to melt a blob of demis. They win every fight against heros, if they are mounted they get bonus damge, if they are on foot the kick them arround.
Only cycle charges from the air can work. But not if the beastman have spupport units left.

[SleepyNarwhalz]

Originally posted by Shandor:

Originally posted by Avocadius:

Gorebulls can excel when left alone, he will die very fast when focused. No amount of potions gonna save him. That is basicaly how all minotaurs work. Not to mention that everything from amber spear to luminak will slay gorebull in seconds. And do not forget about cannons.

That's only possible against bad players. If there is somekind of destraction for the art the gorebulls will conect and slay luminarks and heros.If the map favros art to much you will not do this build anyway.

Originally posted by Avocadius:

3Gorebulls have no problems to melt a blob of demis. They win every fight against heros, if they are mounted they get bonus damge, if they are on foot the kick them arround.
Only cycle charges from the air can work. But not if the beastman have spupport units left.

What your saying makes it sound like your not a very good player (no offence). If I see something dangerous I'm going to shoot it down and not get distracted by other things. Also if your leaving a demi unit in the fight with one they are moist likely going to die as your not using their charge to kill him.

[Avocadius]

Originally posted by SleepyNarwhalz:

What your saying makes it sound like your not a very good player (no offence). If I see something dangerous I'm going to shoot it down and not get distracted by other things. Also if your leaving a demi unit in the fight with one they are moist likely going to die as your not using their charge to kill him.

I play esl tournaments and i am not bad in this.
Btw i am using this gorebull armies against other players. I know how to catch expensive units and then steamroll over them. This not a "i don't know what to do, so nerf ploxx" thread. Also in tournaments so much other player says that the gorebull is too strong.

[Sentient Roomba]

git gud

seriously though, gorebulls are certainly the strongest hero, but not unkillable by any means.

[110]

yeah they are crazy strong.. standby for a nerf to beastmen tho.. just like how VC were nerfed..

[The Mighty Mulletman]

Try grail Knights next time. Last fight I had against gore Bulls they simply melted away from repeated charges.

[The Mighty Mulletman]

Did you have any cavalry? They're your best units as Bretonnia.

[Avocadius]

Originally posted by The MulletMan:

Did you have any cavalry? They're your best units as Bretonnia.

Indeed, this can works surprisingly well. But with infantry support it's again a different thing. And even if you can kill gorebulls,that doesn't matter, because you can play so sloppy with them and heal up so many times, that it makes it really unfair. I mean look what you have to do with them to dominate the battle( not much micro) and then look what you have to do for killing them. Then look at the price and compare it to similar units of different factions.

[The Mighty Mulletman]

Originally posted by Avocadius:

Originally posted by The MulletMan:

Did you have any cavalry? They're your best units as Bretonnia.

Indeed, this can works surprisingly well. But with infantry support it's again a different thing. And even if you can kill gorebulls,that doesn't matter, because you can play so sloppy with them and heal up so many times, that it makes it really unfair. I mean look what you have to do with them to dominate the battle( not much micro) and then look what you have to do for killing them. Then look at the price and compare it to similar units of different factions.

All you need to do is break their moral then those potions are wasted. Grail Knights cost about the same. Do a few good cycle charges and the gore Bulls will be running.