How to beat the game?

[A TIN OF JAR]

Ok so im still on my first playthrough playing as The Empire, if anybod has read any of my other posts you will have read im a total noob when it comes to not only Total War games but the Warhammer universe in gereral. (really, really enjoying this game though)

Ive read people finishing a faction campaign on hard or even legendary in like 60, 70, 80 & 90 turns ect ... How the hell are you guys doing this? Like i said im playing as The Empire on easy difficulty nearly at turn 90(if i remember correctly)with no end in sight.

I planned on starting with The Empire and working my way from left to right through the factions to finish each single player campaign.

Any tips for a noob on finishing The Empire campaign?

Cheers.

[Saint Landwalker]

I've finished two campaigns (one as Dwarfs, one as Empire), and they each took me around 140-150 turns. There's no shot clock on the campaign—play it at whatever pace floats your dinghy.

To "beat" the campaign, you have to fulfill the victory conditions. You can check these by opening up the objectives (I don't remember exactly where these are but it's one of the buttons in the bottom right corner, in the same general area as Diplomacy and the like).

For the Empire, the "Short Victory Conditions" require you to control (directly or indirectly) most of the Imperial regions, including both halves of Sylvania, and to have beaten back the encroaching warriors of Chaos.

[RobOda]

I wouldn't pay attention to people who have blitzed through the game.

Play at your own pace.

[Rogat]

Turns dont really matter, what matters is the difficulty xD

[Saint Landwalker]

Originally posted by Skaylor:

Turns dont really matter, what matters is the difficulty whether or not you have fun. xD

[A TIN OF JAR]

Originally posted by robref:

I wouldn't pay attention to people who have blitzed through the game.

Play at your own pace.

Yeah i agree, like i said im really enjoying playing the game i was just wondering if i was doing something wrong when i read people finishing the game in such low turns

[Rabenschwarz]

Well, dont get under pressure by the time experts need to finish a campaign. My playthroughs took from 120 to 260 turns (depending on the faction).

Tips:
- Diplomacy can save you a lot of time and money. Try to get as many trade agreements as possible and try to confederate with as many Empire factions as possible.
- Have as many Witch Hunters as possible. Don't use them in combat. Their strengh lays on the campaign map. Assassinate enemy heroes and block enemy armies to catch them.
- Go and raid the Norscan villages on their southern coast from time to time. This prevents some invasions in your backyard.
- Try to get peace treaties with all Bretonian factions (Alliances if possible). This secures your western frontier.
- Vampires: Dont declare war on them until they do. First take care about Chaos and then the vampires. Otherwise you could end on a two frontier war.
- Orcs: same as the Vampires
- Dwarves: Normally friendly to human. Try to get as many Alliances as possible.
- Try to build up your inner Regions first. They are less likely to get raided.
- Build money producing buildings where ever you can. More money means more armies.

That are some basics that worked well for me. Maybe somebody else has good tips, too.

[sdunnyw506]

@A Tin of Jar: agreed with all above. Turns dont matter. In fact honestly victory conditions dont and really have never mattered in any Total War Game (I've played Rome 1 and 2, Medieval 2, Shogun 2, Empire, Attila, Napoleon, and now Warhammer). This might sound corny, but as long as you are having fun it really doesnt matter. You get put in a world and most of the fun comes from the fact that you can do whatever you want. Be the empire and conquer Bretonnia. Kick the dwarves. Ally with the Vampire counts. Unite the Empire. Pull a Rome and conquer everything. Also, btw sometimes the Empire conditions arent that hard to accomplish. If you can knock out the Vampire Counts, become military allies with all the forces in the regions you need to 'control', and do it before Chaos even invades the second time, you will trigger the conditions.

Once again though, I never pay attention to them.

[sdunnyw506]

Also, I am definitely an human/empire player through and through, so if you have tips/questions about the Empire feel free to message me

[General Income Tax]

Last game I won was with the Dwarfs at around turn 100, and I was actually surprised that defeating Archeon would end the game so quickly, I still had so much technology to research and so much more that I wanted to do.

Goes to show that you don't have to mess around when your guys are carrying 8 barrel cannons and gyrocopters with flame throwers in a medieval setting.

[sdunnyw506]

Agreed with above. In general it is a faster game than other TW's, but this isn't that different from a scenario than what would happen in the Medieval II mod The Third Age (the Lord of the Rings mod for MII). You would play as your faction, defeat your generally evil faction with alliances with the other 'good' factions. At that point you could either end the campaign or choose to start conquering the other factions.

I thought I would be hesitant to fight the dwarves as the empire.

Had no hesitation after the first time I did it. if the dwaves or any other faction pisses me off, they get it.

Ok now I think I need to go play as the orcs...

[Sulkiest Mage]

Best thing is:
1 having fun
2 owning the entire campaign map. I own all of the territory possible except the smoking remains of western sylvania and the burned desolate wastes of the southern desert area and the mountains. I only considered my campaign complete when everything that was not human was dead, and all humans were united under my banner.

[IntrepidH]

i got to turn 250 as the dwarfs, wiped out the greenskins,Empire had everything checked and done..... and over 20+ grudges in the book from a a few obscure varg camps mainly from them assassinating me (i also had the mod for only 1 assassin class each....

I promptly decided "I WON" and moved on with my life rather than hunt down and exterminate every one of them or spin the assassin wheel for another 50+ turns to try to win

[Falaris]

Originally posted by Skaylor:

Turns dont really matter, what matters is the difficulty xD

What matters is the fun. :)

As for playing the Empire - I'm no guru at it, but I think a very important aspect to doing well with them is carefully maintaining trustworthines and neighbourly relations. Decide early who you want to war with - I'd suggest Marienburg, their territories are WEALTHY and they're rather hostile. Averland seems hard to keep happy, too, so that's a good choice. Ostmark is a candidate, at least. The rest - make them friendly, make them trade, and ally with them over time.

Also make sure you have good relations with the dwarves. You'll eventually confederate with the other empire factions, and having dwarves to trade and ally with is valuable.

And of course, war with Vampire Counts is unavoidable.

As for the battles.... get a wizard - celestial vs. VC, fire vs. everything, something like that - just not a lot of wizards in one army. (They all draw from the same mana pool, so to speak).

Lastly, I'd suggest not worrying too much about the victory conditions. Mopping up the map isn't that fun, so it's okay to go 'Okay, I can't possibly lose this, new campaign!'.

[Morendie91]

Pretty much want to befriend and confederate as many empire factions as you can, if not, control all of them. Wipe out the vampires is your main enemy, you want to wipe them out and take there lands. If you can't do that before the chaos arrive, then you have to kill off chaos.

[Falaris]

Originally posted by PunWisp:

Pretty much want to befriend and confederate as many empire factions as you can, if not, control all of them. Wipe out the vampires is your main enemy, you want to wipe them out and take there lands. If you can't do that before the chaos arrive, then you have to kill off chaos.

Hm. I haven't really had that work for me. My allies suddenly go to war on each other, they ask me to honor the alliance and attack the other guy I have at least a NA-pact with, and then whatever I do I get untrustworthy, all alliances get broken off, and things go chaotic fast. Thus I tend to try to ally with only a select few. How do you make allying with everyone work?