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how important is karl franz in age of sigmar?
is he still the empire leader?

please and thanks
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Jalhalla Jul 15, 2016 @ 9:17pm 
Yes and no. During the End Times, he either becomes the vessel for Sigmar/ ascends to godhood/ is revealed to be Sigmar reincarnated and rides out the End of the World until he/Sigmar re-creates the universe.

As of AoS, he may be the Celestian Prime of the Stormcast Eternals but some think that might be Settra of the Tomb Kings.

So to answer your question, we don't know for sure.
Last edited by Jalhalla; Jul 15, 2016 @ 9:20pm
Originally posted by Jalhalla:
Yes and no. During the End Times, he either becomes the vessel for Sigmar/ ascends to godhood/ is revealed to be Sigmar reincarnated and rides out the End of the World until he/Sigmar re-creates the universe.

As of AoS, he may be the Celestian Prime of the Stormcast Eternals but some think that might be Settra of the Tomb Kings.

So to answer your question, we don't know for sure.


ok thanks, i wasnt sure if he was still importnant in age of sigmar or not
Harukage Jul 15, 2016 @ 9:23pm 
Pfft. Karl Franz had litteraly died during the siege of Altdorf, only for Sigmar who had spent the last 2000 years imprisoned in the wind of heavens, and who was just recently released along with the wind by Teclis, to possess the dying body of the Emperor. And then he impersonated Karl Franz for some time judging that it is still yet not the time to reveal himself.
And after the old world was wrecked i doubt much had changed. Sigmar is still walking around in Karl Franz's body.
Last edited by Harukage; Jul 15, 2016 @ 9:23pm
DeficatingApe Jul 15, 2016 @ 9:23pm 
He is killed by Archaon during the endtimes so he is not in Age of Sigmar.
Sheytanaslan Jul 15, 2016 @ 9:23pm 
Originally posted by ZEEK (Trained Navy Seal):
Originally posted by Jalhalla:
Yes and no. During the End Times, he either becomes the vessel for Sigmar/ ascends to godhood/ is revealed to be Sigmar reincarnated and rides out the End of the World until he/Sigmar re-creates the universe.

As of AoS, he may be the Celestian Prime of the Stormcast Eternals but some think that might be Settra of the Tomb Kings.

So to answer your question, we don't know for sure.


ok thanks, i wasnt sure if he was still importnant in age of sigmar or not
I feed seals too!
Harukage Jul 15, 2016 @ 9:23pm 
Originally posted by DeaficatingApe:
He is killed by Archaon during the endtimes so he is not in Age of Sigmar.
that is not true in many ways
Sheytanaslan Jul 15, 2016 @ 9:28pm 
Originally posted by Ludwig Schwarzhelm:
Well If recall the whole Age of Sigmar non-sense follows the whole End-Times story which everyone dies, which includes Karl Franz. I believe he died during the siege of Altdorf or some other city. Anyone feel free to correct me, but I think it involved a whole, him becoming a powerful saintly like being, then dying in a fight with some chaos champion or something like that.
In other words everything related to WF no longer exsists in AoS cause it's all been wiped out.
Huh? so evryone dies?
Lavergne Jul 15, 2016 @ 9:29pm 
Originally posted by Sheytanaslan:
Originally posted by Ludwig Schwarzhelm:
Well If recall the whole Age of Sigmar non-sense follows the whole End-Times story which everyone dies, which includes Karl Franz. I believe he died during the siege of Altdorf or some other city. Anyone feel free to correct me, but I think it involved a whole, him becoming a powerful saintly like being, then dying in a fight with some chaos champion or something like that.
In other words everything related to WF no longer exsists in AoS cause it's all been wiped out.
Huh? so evryone dies?
Everyone and everything is pretty much dead. cause of the End Times
Harukage Jul 15, 2016 @ 9:31pm 
Everyone and everything are alive because Sigmar and other incarnates became gods and revived all dead souls to life again. Including thousands of yeras of dead elves eaten by Slaanesh, because Malekith with high elven twins gutted Slaanesh and took out everything it had inside.
Last edited by Harukage; Jul 15, 2016 @ 9:31pm
Sheytanaslan Jul 15, 2016 @ 9:31pm 
Originally posted by Ludwig Schwarzhelm:
Originally posted by Sheytanaslan:
Huh? so evryone dies?
Everyone and everything is pretty much dead. cause of the End Times
Thats a pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥ way to tie it all together lol. Seems like they all sat around at the pub and said lets piss on our customers.
Lavergne Jul 15, 2016 @ 9:55pm 
Originally posted by Sheytanaslan:
Originally posted by Ludwig Schwarzhelm:
Everyone and everything is pretty much dead. cause of the End Times
Thats a pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥ way to tie it all together lol. Seems like they all sat around at the pub and said lets piss on our customers.
If recall the one reason (or perhaps the only reason idk) the end times is cannon is cause GW thought it would cool to let community game results deicide how things would turn out. Neat Idea except, some people just submitted multple results for races they liked. So what could've been a much more fairer or decive outcome depending on how people played and won. It turned into a mess. For example compared to the end times Chaos just fell apart at the start and made practically no progress.
Last edited by Lavergne; Jul 15, 2016 @ 9:56pm
Big Boom Boom Jul 15, 2016 @ 10:04pm 
Originally posted by Ludwig Schwarzhelm:
Originally posted by Sheytanaslan:
Huh? so evryone dies?
Everyone and everything is pretty much dead. cause of the End Times

No, Chaos is pretty much alive and party hard, until Khorne has enough of this Undivided crap and start blood and gore pack on other Chaos Gods.
Kazaanh Jul 15, 2016 @ 10:06pm 
GW jerks off to the chaos 24/7, thats the reason.
Daliena Jul 15, 2016 @ 10:07pm 
Originally posted by Ludwig Schwarzhelm:
Originally posted by Sheytanaslan:
Thats a pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥ way to tie it all together lol. Seems like they all sat around at the pub and said lets piss on our customers.
If recall the one reason (or perhaps the only reason idk) the end times is cannon is cause GW thought it would cool to let community game results deicide how things would turn out. Neat Idea except, some people just submitted multple results for races they liked. So what could've been a much more fairer or decive outcome depending on how people played and won. It turned into a mess. For example compared to the end times Chaos just fell apart at the start and made practically no progress.

The way I heard it, they already tried to push an End Times through back during the Storm of Chaos, where it was their intent for that to be the reboot, and the results would be decided by tournament.. Problem for GW was, Chaos got it's ass kicked.

Then they backpedaled and asked for a vote, and the win went to.. The orcs. Thus we got Grimgor doing a rocket headbutt nut shot on Archaon and that was that for the Storm of Chaos.

Then GW got the last laugh by doing the End Times storyline..
Last edited by Daliena; Jul 15, 2016 @ 10:07pm
Sheytanaslan Jul 15, 2016 @ 10:11pm 
Originally posted by Daliena:
Originally posted by Ludwig Schwarzhelm:
If recall the one reason (or perhaps the only reason idk) the end times is cannon is cause GW thought it would cool to let community game results deicide how things would turn out. Neat Idea except, some people just submitted multple results for races they liked. So what could've been a much more fairer or decive outcome depending on how people played and won. It turned into a mess. For example compared to the end times Chaos just fell apart at the start and made practically no progress.

The way I heard it, they already tried to push an End Times through back during the Storm of Chaos, where it was their intent for that to be the reboot, and the results would be decided by tournament.. Problem for GW was, Chaos got it's ass kicked.

Then they backpedaled and asked for a vote, and the win went to.. The orcs. Thus we got Grimgor doing a rocket headbutt nut shot on Archaon and that was that for the Storm of Chaos.

Then GW got the last laugh by doing the End Times storyline..
HAHA so there must have been alot of booze and some hashish involved :P
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