Do Dwarves actually fight each other?

[Vorebait]

It seems in every play as Greenskins, the Orcs will fight each other, but the Dwarves (Specifically 'Dwarves') consistently form confederations. I've allied with several Orc factions through sheer might, but the Dwarves seem to -never- fight amongst themselves. This essentially leads to the Orc factions getting wiped out in the southeastern part of the map by the Dwarf AI.

Is there something I'm missing since this makes playing the Greenskin campaign very one-sided. Constantly fighting Thorgrim armies with 3-4 stacks moving around the map and he's consistently controlled the majority of the territory. I have no idea what is going on but its just insane and frustrating.

Like within 6-7 turns, Barak Varr confederates with Dwarves, Scabby Eye gets wiped out, and that eliminates any buffer between the Dwarves and Death Pass. Previously, I took Iron Rock, Barak Varr took Karag Dorn. Then Barak Varr joins Dwarves and to create a buffer I razed Barag Dawazbag then wiped out a 10/20 army outside of Iron Rock. But then I'm stuck because I can't move south to fight the other dwarves.

Ugh. This sucks. Not fun.

[Dreadisan]

dwarfs are not orcs. dwarfs won't fight each other or well it is very unlikly that they do.
Orcs are a fighting race they even need to fight not to loose men so its quite likly they would attack each other. Although on higher difficulties you will be the target most of the time.

[Aidinthel]

From playing as the Dwarves, I believe they do start allied with Barak Varr, or at least having a non-aggression pact, and the other Dwarf factions along the eastern edge of the map ally quite readily. They get a slight but important diplomatic boost from 'tolerance for Dwarves' or something like that.

I did manage to make an enemy of the one dwarf faction on the other side of the Border Princes by ignoring them until the 'Great Power' diplomatic penalty kicked in, so they aren't automatically best friends, but their greater cooperation does seem to give them a good boost vs the greenskins.

[Naughty Mouse]

Dwarfs are a Honor Bound society. Lots of rules and such. For them Lore wise to get into fights with each other ussually allot of bad blood had to happen.

Orcs are a Warrior based society, living only to fight. This combined with Goblins, a society of backstabers makes up the Greenskins. So it is very easy for Orcs to get into a fight with each other.

So the game is portraing this very accurate.

[Vorebait]

Guess I just have to just mod my game instead of talking about it on a forum, lol.

Thanks anyways.

[Smiling "Lucky" Lynx]

They all serve the High King technically, right? Not to mention, they are a dying breed from what I've read so they probably take their losses to each other more seriously. Orcs are some kind of fungal spread of angry things.

[Wistful_HERBz]

The first thing I did when starting my Greenskins game was kill the two Dwarf factions to the north of me(Dwarfs and Barak Varr) after I killed the "High King" I noticed the other factions didn't unite together and so far they've stayed solo, a few of them are even at war with eachother(Karak Hadrin and Zhufbar)

[Procrastinating Gamer]

Also, they're not called "Dwarves" in Warhammer Fantasy, they're called "Dwarfs". Small difference, but a difference all the same (so, no; CA hasn't just mis-spelt the plural form of dwarf throughout the entire game).

[Reverend Belial]

Grey Mountain Dwarfs will fight each other occasionally, but the proper World's Edge Mountains Dwarf holds will not. They're a fairly independant race, but they're also not backstabbing ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who take advantage of each other (which is basically the prerequisite for infighting) and they place a high premium on honor, so civil wars are extremely uncommon and never without really really good reason.

[kampfer91]

Sometime they fight over Gold , but then again it is rare , they are totally different from Ork or Empire .

[Ulrik H.D]

Originally posted by Shadow88:

Also, they're not called "Dwarves" in Warhammer Fantasy, they're called "Dwarfs". Small difference, but a difference all the same (so, no; CA hasn't just mis-spelt the plural form of dwarf throughout the entire game).

If I remember correctly it was Tolkien who popularized the word "dwarves", the standard plural form is actually "dwarfs" not "dwarves".

[Reverend Belial]

Originally posted by Ulrik H.D:

Originally posted by Shadow88:

Also, they're not called "Dwarves" in Warhammer Fantasy, they're called "Dwarfs". Small difference, but a difference all the same (so, no; CA hasn't just mis-spelt the plural form of dwarf throughout the entire game).

If I remember correctly it was Tolkien who popularized the word "dwarves", the standard plural form is actually "dwarfs" not "dwarves".

That is correct, yes.

[Reverend Belial]

Originally posted by Maschinengewehr:

Dwarfs is American English. Dwarves is well, proper English.

Incorrect. The proper spelling (and the pre-Tolkien spelling) is Dwarfs.

[Ulrik H.D]

Originally posted by Maschinengewehr:

Dwarfs is American English. Dwarves is well, proper English.

"proper english", American english is closer to the "old english" than the UK though.

[Flip]

In my dwarf game it was actually the Orcs that did a lot of confederating (a word? :P ).

Also makes sense Orcs fight each other because they are orcs (and actually as a play is useful as it gives you somebody to beat up on to keep fightiness up etc).

[Kernest]

I haven't played as either the VC or Chaos yet, so I haven't been a "neutral observer" excepts once in my Empire campaign. In that the Dwarfs did capture territory quite effectively to the south, and given time would probably have wiped out the Greenskins. That's not to say the opposite can't happen.

In my 1st Dwarf campaign I stopped going south after conquering Black Crag and the Greenskins came out on top in the Orc struggle and constantly sent large stacks to bother me.

But I suppose the real problem is the viability of certain AI factions, for example Zhufbar almost always gets razed by the VC or lose all but their capital to them. Karak Azul and especially Kraka Drak (near Norsca) usually get wiped out too.

Virtually no Greenskins outside the Badlands ever survive, and Karak Kadrin, north of Zhufbar, usually takes out the northern Greenskins and thrives, while the 2 Dwarf factions near Empire and Brettonia usually do too, and those 3 end up being some of the strongest factions in the game, and usually an important part of the reason why Chaos doesn't curbstomp the AI human factions before I bother to take my armies there.