Spotting during battle

[kpt. Wodzionka]

I had 2 different battles in which my army was totally unable to spot the enemy army until they were in melee range; one was in rain, in marshland, I was unable to see enemies so I pushed forward until they appeared in melee range, the second occasion whas an empire vs empire battle, in bright weather, on grassland, the enemy received reinforcments and I never saw them coming, they appeared the moment they started charging my men.

[KoiChamp]

could have been hiding units.

or terrain could have hidden them.

[Shinkiro]

Since empire have no hidden units, besides a bug the only other explainations are difficulty and battle realism.

I think legendary affects your LOS in some way (don't quote me on that) but "battle realism" mode does for sure. It limits your units LOS to a smaller range and takes away some other stuff, combined with weather effects it would reduce LOS further and that would be why you couldn't see them.

If this is for every battle then it's most likely battle realism. Check it isn't on in the game options.

Hope that helps.

Originally posted by Mason:

could have been hiding units.

or terrain could have hidden them.

Or this, always easy to miss the obvious! :P

[Magicfire299]

I had this issue as well, but I think it had to do with the battle minimap and LoS. during deployment in 4 of my battles this campaign as VC, the black hidden areas on the map did not update, and all my units had the hidden icon. Only when stumbling into them and seeing them charge did they show up. Another was where the map had No LOS black spots and the same happened, even with me knowing where the reinforcements were coming from (behind me, deployed specifically to fight them), was fairly flat and no trees, and still couldn't see them until I was hitting them. Weather was clear for all but one of them, and that one was slightly foggy but not too bad.

[kpt. Wodzionka]

I wasn't playing on legendary, regarding the battle with empire it couldn't have been LOS cause I had mortars and archers facing them and standing on a small hill (I knew they'd come and my plan was to damage them with aertillery before melee fight. Also, the invisible units were reinforcments and they came from the same direction as the basic units before, and those were visible normally.

[Rior]

Just had this problem in a battle when i was playing Empire vs Orcs normal difficulty, open field and they were apparently advancing towards me because when i finally spotted them they were right infront of my armie and attack. Kinda sucks since my arties and crowbowmen/gunners didnt even get one volley off.

[Xhal]

I finished the campaign on legendary with no mods and never had this problem. Battle realism just disables the minimap and prevents you moving the camera away from your units. Doesn't affect draw distance of the graphical engine.

[Oleg_okay]

+ sometimes enemy army is invisible. even in the open terrain.

[♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥]

When fighting the VC i could not see them on a plain with no trees, flat terrain, before they were about 2 meters from my formations even tough the mini-map said I had all revealed. I kid you not I crashed in them with scout cavalry like a ♥♥♥♥ing deer on the road at midnight!

[Al Gore]

Same issue, it's a bug, every so often you get a battle that in for no reason the enemy army is entirely concealed throughout the whole battle, and units only appear the moment they engage your units. It's not an ambush battle and there is no terrain causing it, it's entirely a bug.

[Al Gore]

No mods, normal difficulty, latest drivers, game runs fine in every other regard.

[Mel]

Yup this cancer is still occuring more and more frequently.

[dougalinnz]

Yeah, I had this issue when fighting dwarves in the badlands... Completely desolate battlefield, void of all foliage, slightly hilly, but not big enough to block LOS and the enemy was within melee before I could spot them, even though I had Dragon Ogre Shaggoth's which are tall af.

[tovie]

i have this often chaos horsemen who are withing axe throwing distance. i tell my units to charge them,they fade out for 1 second(become invisible) and start throwing axes again because of this the order has been canceled and my units are standing there like idiots getting peppered.

had this happen with dwarf crossbow units aswell,up to the point where i think i had ordered my guys 3 times alrdy to attack the enemys shooting at them and every time theyd move a few steps,the enemy regiment fades away for a moment and then starts shooting at me again.

ive since learned when attacking enemy ranged units to give the order and then check up on them about every 5-10 seconds to ensure they are still following the order i just gave them. this is just tedious.

[Lyle]

Same here. Chaos vs O&G & VC. Didnt look foogy at all. But units only started to see each other at about a 3 sec charge distance.

It was a quite laggy battle. Perhaps it is a lag thing.

[Mel]

There's something definitely wrong with the 'fog of war' system during battles the zones your units can't see during initial deployment never seem to become visible afterwards and sometimes the fog of war covers the entire map.