PC Gamer benchmarks DX11 vs DX12 (GPU vs CPU)

[PatientLandBeaver]

Really good article. Interestingly there isn't much of a difference between Gtx 1080 and 970 with the same cpu as the game relies too heavily on the CPU and gets bottlenecked.

Also, great fps gains with the dx12 patch!

http://www.pcgamer.com/total-war-warhammer-benchmarks-strike-fear-into-cpus/#article

[Lyle]

Apart from the framerate, does DX12 increase the visual fidelity in some way?

[PatientLandBeaver]

Origineel geplaatst door Dino swe:

Apart from the framerate, does DX12 increase the visual fidelity in some way?

It seems the dx12 patch will just have performance optimizations initially. There was no mention of increased visuals.

[✪ Sgt. Spiers [51st] ✪]

So will this fix it so i dont have to use low to medium settings

[PatientLandBeaver]

Origineel geplaatst door ☭RRSpecOps☭:

So will this fix it so i dont have to use low to medium settings

I'll be happy with 60 fps on medium/high :)

[Viper]

This game is heavily dependent on the CPU just like all Total War games. That will be your limiting factor.

[la_nague]

yes with help of AMD they programmed the game so it makes good use of DX12 paralell processing, which helps with CPU load and it also helps AMD gpus and cpus because their hardware is designed with this in mind.

[Viper]

Origineel geplaatst door la_nague:

yes with help of AMD they programmed the game so it makes good use of DX12 paralell processing, which helps with CPU load and it also helps AMD gpus and cpus because their hardware is designed with this in mind.

That only helps with graphics processing. If the heavy CPU load is due to a lot of data having to be processed. For example 1000 units on the screen at the same time. Multiple battles going on. Movement paths being calculated......etc. Its not going to help. Its not a second CPU.

[PatientLandBeaver]

Origineel geplaatst door la_nague:

yes with help of AMD they programmed the game so it makes good use of DX12 paralell processing, which helps with CPU load and it also helps AMD gpus and cpus because their hardware is designed with this in mind.

It may help AMD gpu's more but nvidia gpu's still benefit from this DX12 patch with some substantial and impressive fps gains!

[PatientLandBeaver]

Origineel geplaatst door Marcellus:

And the I7 four core were the best, oh I haven´t seen their in this test, but why?

They used an Intel Core i7-5930K @ 4.2GHz which is comparable in TW Warhammer performance to the i7-6700 ..

[the velvet hammer]

We really obsess with this FPS issue. I like having a smooth high frame rate but I'd rather the game be good. Really anything above thirty for TW games is fine(although this game does much better than that.) However, it is cool that the DX12 patch should make it play even smoother.

[PatientLandBeaver]

Origineel geplaatst door Viper:

This game is heavily dependent on the CPU just like all Total War games. That will be your limiting factor.

Until the DX12 patch comes out there isn't a CPU available which will remove the bottleneck. That's why their isn't much of a performance difference between the GTX 970 and 1080 in DX11 exe since it's being restricted by the CPU overhead. I can't wait for their DX12 patch! :-)

[la_nague]

Origineel geplaatst door Viper:

Origineel geplaatst door la_nague:

yes with help of AMD they programmed the game so it makes good use of DX12 paralell processing, which helps with CPU load and it also helps AMD gpus and cpus because their hardware is designed with this in mind.

That only helps with graphics processing. If the heavy CPU load is due to a lot of data having to be processed. For example 1000 units on the screen at the same time. Multiple battles going on. Movement paths being calculated......etc. Its not going to help. Its not a second CPU.

its not that simple, the CPU is blocked by graphics processing and dx12 together with a properly programmed game reduces the block basically.

[DyNaMiX]

Get an i5 they said. Games don't utilise an i7 they said.... :/

[PatientLandBeaver]

Origineel geplaatst door Dean478:

Get an i5 they said. Games don't utilise an i7 they said.... :/

Lol yeah, obviosuly those experts never tested the Total War series i5 vs i7! ;)

My current cpu is a 4 year old i5-3570k@4.4 Ghz but I'm seriously considering getting an i7-6700K. Going to be a big upgrade since it also needs a new motherboard and DDR4 memory!

[Viper]

Origineel geplaatst door PatientLandBeaver:

Origineel geplaatst door Dean478:

Get an i5 they said. Games don't utilise an i7 they said.... :/

Lol yeah, obviosuly those experts never tested the Total War series i5 vs i7! ;)

My current cpu is a 4 year old i5-3570k@4.4 Ghz but I'm seriously considering getting an i7-6700K. Going to be a big upgrade since it also needs a new motherboard and DDR4 memory!

You can get an I7 4790 for about the same price ( maybe even a little cheaper )and it is a much better CPU for games. It possesses probably the best single core performance you can get. And multi threading performance is probably near the same.