全軍破敵:戰鎚

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Daryl 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 1:35
Sigmar, The Emperor reincarnate? or a lost Primarch?
Who do you suppose Sigmar is?
The Emperor in his own fantasy world?
A lost Primarch?
or another Deity-like being that rivals the Emperor?
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Daryl 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:28 
引用自 SweRacoon
引用自 Alx
The first three Chaos Gods became sentient by the middle of the 2nd Millennium, While Slaanesh did not become, Slaanesh, a sentient being, untill the 30th Millennium.

So you mean to say that the Fall of the Eldar took place at the same time as the Horus Heresy? Uh-huh.


It took place prior since the Laeran was a race that worshipped Slaanesh and was the one to corrupt Fulgrim prior to the Heresy even taking form
Rimming Enjoyer 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:28 
引用自 SweRacoon
引用自 Alx
The first three Chaos Gods became sentient by the middle of the 2nd Millennium, While Slaanesh did not become, Slaanesh, a sentient being, untill the 30th Millennium.

So you mean to say that the Fall of the Eldar took place at the same time as the Horus Heresy? Uh-huh.
Horus Heresy = 31st Millennium.

Slaanesh was born during the Age of Strife, which is 29-30st Millennium.
最後修改者:Rimming Enjoyer; 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:29
Snorri Nosebiter 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:38 
引用自 Alx
Chaos Daemons (4th Edition)

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Slaanesh

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Slaanesh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_(Warhammer)

Changed my mind again, after reading your first link:

"In the Immaterium, the collective psychic reflections of their indolence and hedonism caused a new Chaos Power to stir, beginning in the 25th Millennium of the Terran calendar."

So, Slaanesh acheived full sentience just prior to the Crusade, but actually existed five thousand years before it.

Looks like everyone can be right, albeit on a technicality. :D
最後修改者:Snorri Nosebiter; 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:40
Clappie 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:40 
Warhammer 40K =//= Warhammer Fantasy.

They are NOT set in the same universe. So stop with these kinds of threads. Sigmar has NOTHING to do with the Imperium of Man.
Rimming Enjoyer 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:40 
引用自 Dave Hedgehog
引用自 Alx
Chaos Daemons (4th Edition)

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Slaanesh

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Slaanesh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_(Warhammer)

Changed my mind again, after reading your first link:

"In the Immaterium, the collective psychic reflections of their indolence and hedonism caused a new Chaos Power to stir, beginning in the 25th Millennium of the Terran calendar."
But it wasn't fully sentinent, and it later gave birth to Slaanesh, which also causes the massive Warp Storms to calm down so the Imperium could go out & find its lost worlds.
最後修改者:Rimming Enjoyer; 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:40
Delamain's 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:41 
It would be epic if Total war would make a Lord of the rings Game :D
最後修改者:Delamain's; 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:42
Snorri Nosebiter 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:41 
引用自 Alx
But it wasn't fully sentinent, and it later gave Birth to Slaanesh, which also causes the massive Warp Storms to calm down so the Imperium could go out & find its lost worlds.

And yet it existed and fed upon the Eldar, and also influenced the Laer.
最後修改者:Snorri Nosebiter; 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:41
Daryl 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:41 
Eldar really screwed everyone over... why?
The birth of Slaanesh created a giant hole in the materium which connected into the immaterium.. and gave a large unclosable hole which leaks out Chaotic influence some 1000x fold than it already was.
Rimming Enjoyer 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:43 
引用自 Dave Hedgehog
引用自 Alx
But it wasn't fully sentinent, and it later gave Birth to Slaanesh, which also causes the massive Warp Storms to calm down so the Imperium could go out & find its lost worlds.

And yet it existed and fed upon the Eldar, and also influenced the Laer.
We didn't encounter the Laer untill 31st, which would've given Slaanesh almost 2,000 years to influence them.

And yes, the Eldars happy times did lead to the Birth of Slaanesh. Due to thousands of year of depravity and corruption, of an entiiire species that are also gifted with huge(unlimited) psycic abilities, which also connected them to the Warp.

最後修改者:Rimming Enjoyer; 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:48
BallisticOctopus 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:58 
引用自 Dave Hedgehog

Changed my mind again, after reading your first link:

"In the Immaterium, the collective psychic reflections of their indolence and hedonism caused a new Chaos Power to stir, beginning in the 25th Millennium of the Terran calendar."

So, Slaanesh acheived full sentience just prior to the Crusade, but actually existed five thousand years before it.

Looks like everyone can be right, albeit on a technicality. :D

As much as the Warp cares for our flow of time, at least. Which isn't all that much, to be fair, consdering what's implied in one of the HH Word Bearers books (name escapes me at the moment).

Does indeed appear that the Fall happened sometime towards the end of the Age of Strife though. Was pretty sure it was way before humanity ever took to the stars.
Vargas78 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 3:03 
引用自 Daryl
Eldar really screwed everyone over... why?

Eldar are immortal (in that they dont die of old age) and from that potentially comes boredom after a while so they fell to hedonism which became more extreme, to the point of it being something really awful with death and torture as well as pleasure. Eldar were one of the most numerous races of that time and most of them fell to this lifestyle so that's how slaanesh came to be. Such Eldar live on in the Dark Eldar though they have ways to keep slaanesh from devouring their souls.

The elves of warhammer fantasy battle have not fallen down this path, though it could be said the dark elves are kind of down that road. Dark elves still worship the elven gods but some of them include Slaanesh in the pantheon.
shinros 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 3:07 
引用自 A6M Zero
引用自 Dave Hedgehog

I agree with you on the lack of connection, but Slaanesh is present in 40k, too. I'm not sure what you mean.

Maybe they're referring to Slaanesh basically being wiped from Age of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Well if people actually read the fluff and pay attention to news they would know slaanesh has not been fluff squatted but hey. All that is happening is that slaanesh is being relevant in the fantasy fluff for once. Instead of just khorne and nurgle in fantasy but hey the internet generalises things but whatever.
最後修改者:shinros; 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 3:11
Smiling "Lucky" Lynx 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 3:11 
引用自 shinros
引用自 A6M Zero

Maybe they're referring to Slaanesh basically being wiped from Age of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Well if people actually read the fluff and pay attention to news they would know slaanesh has not been fluff squatted but hey. The internet generalises things but whatever.

What happened to him? Genuine question. I read elsewhere he was erased. Seemed a bit odd to me. Is he dead or something in Fantasy?
shinros 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 3:18 
引用自 Socrates Bound
引用自 shinros
Well if people actually read the fluff and pay attention to news they would know slaanesh has not been fluff squatted but hey. The internet generalises things but whatever.

What happened to him? Genuine question. I read elsewhere he was erased. Seemed a bit odd to me. Is he dead or something in Fantasy?
No what happened is elves no sorry aelf's, tzeentch realized that chaos were getting smacked in the face by a united pantheon so to break it he decided to leak the information of slaanesh's location to Tyrion, Malerion and Teclis, who are gods now and being elves they said screw sigmar and went after well it.

Slaanesh was in an intert state because it devoured so many elves and aelf souls and was in the process of digesetion. Malerion is holding slaanesh in the realm of shadows since all of slaanesh followers are converging upon it.

Fluff wise chaos still consideres slaanesh to be a part of the panethon even when it is missing and Archaon still test's his new varanguard members on the 4 aspects of the gods. No one likes the horned rat being in the club save nurgle for obvious reasons he loves everyone.

The situation of the followers is like this at the current moment majority are enjoying the hunt and chase viewing it as a crazy new sensation, a lot of greater daemons are fighting over the vacant throne. The third group don't really care. There were two e-shorts showing how they are dealing with the situation at the moment and for once slaanesh is getting interesting development.

If "rumors" are to be believed and they are almost always right slaanesh is slotted for a release after the dark elves late this year or the next. First GW is setting up the new aelf's and dealing with the summer campaign that's going to effect the fluff according to interviews this is going to be done yearly.

To keep it simple tzeentch was a troll, slaanesh was kidnapped in the middle of a druken hang over and elves/aelfs are being pricks as always. A black library editor months ago said that slaanesh is now an important plot point for once in fantasy.

One thing I like about the setting is that chaos winning is not exactly assured? I should say? Since the slaan and Sigmar want to prevent past mistakes. Personally I thought it would of been more interesting for nagash to end the world.

Oh and to the people who call the fluff kiddy if you know you actually read it, its far from that.
最後修改者:shinros; 2016 年 5 月 23 日 上午 3:30
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