Total War: Game of Thrones???

[Cynical Jester]

I for one think this would be a nice game to look into for the Total War franchise. I think it could be really enjoyable as long as its done right.

Anyone else have any thoughts on it?

[Smoshie666]

It would go something like;

Dwarf Minister ; "Welcome ambassadors of the Empire. Before you consider our treaty proposal perhaps you would like to sample the delights of our Dwarven Harem?"

Ambassador ; "Nien, you are all right mate - so. many. beards. We'll just sign it now shall we."

[Wendersnaven]

GoThrones is set in a winter bound world where people somehow survive eight years without growing crops, because their only mortal needs are centered around whoredoms and murder. It is written by an author who openly disprespects his fans, and has an unhealthy desire to kill off all his main characters.

I'm NOT saying his writing is bad or his characters uninteresting. I am saying that his "world" is blandly unsustainable and not as deep in Lore as Warhammer. It has been tried before and mostly failed as a dedicated rts/rpg theme, so I don't think a mod would work for many: http://store.steampowered.com/app/58550/

Also, the IP is highly protected so modding is going to be very limited in creativity.

Those are my thoughts, as the OP asked. Now get out the lynch-rope and anal pitchforks

[WalrusMan]

Wendersnaven님이 먼저 게시:

GoThrones is set in a winter bound world where people somehow survive eight years without growing crops, because their only mortal needs are centered around whoredoms and murder. It is written by an author who openly disprespects his fans, and has an unhealthy desire to kill off all his main characters.

I'm NOT saying his writing is bad or his characters uninteresting. I am saying that his "world" is blandly unsustainable and not as deep in Lore as Warhammer. It has been tried before and mostly failed as a dedicated rts/rpg theme, so I don't think a mod would work for many: http://store.steampowered.com/app/58550/

Also, the IP is highly protected so modding is going to be very limited in creativity.

Those are my thoughts, as the OP asked. Now get out the lynch-rope and anal pitchforks

People can hunt, forage, and stockpile.

Humans have survived millenia before the agricultural revolution.

[Wendersnaven]

Dr. Evil님이 먼저 게시:

People can hunt, forage, and stockpile.

Humans have survived millenia before the agricultural revolution.

For an eight year long winter?

[Berserk Belta]

If there could be CK2's dynasty/nobility management/RP elements added to the TW campaign, in Middle Earth or Westeros/Essos or an Arthurian mythological setting I would buy the hell out of any of these. It wouldn't have to be GoT, but it could be.

Wendersnaven님이 먼저 게시:

GoThrones is set in a winter bound world where people somehow survive eight years without growing crops, because their only mortal needs are centered around whoredoms and murder. It is written by an author who openly disprespects his fans, and has an unhealthy desire to kill off all his main characters.

I'm NOT saying his writing is bad or his characters uninteresting. I am saying that his "world" is blandly unsustainable and not as deep in Lore as Warhammer. It has been tried before and mostly failed as a dedicated rts/rpg theme, so I don't think a mod would work for many: http://store.steampowered.com/app/58550/

Also, the IP is highly protected so modding is going to be very limited in creativity.

Those are my thoughts, as the OP asked. Now get out the lynch-rope and anal pitchforks

Genesis didn't fail because it was a licensed asoiaf product - there are several other things that can be attributed to.

In case this is in doubt, both Westeros TW (especially AOPK) and the GoT mod for CK2 are fantastic, and demonstrate that the setting works excellently for both Total War and the Paradox grand strategy thing.

[Egro]

Wendersnaven님이 먼저 게시:

Dr. Evil님이 먼저 게시:

People can hunt, forage, and stockpile.

Humans have survived millenia before the agricultural revolution.

For an eight year long winter? :OhNoBlue:

Human ancestors survived ice age, I don't see why these peeps can't for 8 years. Unless we are talking about Antarctica kind of weather then sure it will be hard but not impossible.

[sffrrrom]

I wouldn't touch it with a 50 foot pole. Personally I think AGOT is one of the worst written series I've ever had the misfortune to read.

[Dax]

Rather have someone attempt a LOTR convertion here, and then someone can try doing a GoT convertion on medieval 3? Assuming thats the next game in line.

[Wendersnaven]

Casinomorph님이 먼저 게시:

Genesis didn't fail because it was a licensed asoiaf product - there are several other things that can be attributed to.

In case this is in doubt, both Westeros TW (especially AOPK) and the GoT mod for CK2 are fantastic, and demonstrate that the setting works excellently for both Total War and the Paradox grand strategy thing.

Exactly- correlation is not causation. Perhaps a translation error? I never said it failed because it was official, I was saying it failed "as" and official product- in comparison to a modular version. If it couldn't make it as the real deal, why would a mod work?

I am unfamiliar with CK2, any good links to check out the GoT mod. I think that's great if they pulled it off. I doubt it will work with Warhammer though, as there are too many things to change and gaps to fill because the lore is so rich and deep.

[WalrusMan]

sffrrrom님이 먼저 게시:

I wouldn't touch it with a 50 foot pole. Personally I think AGOT is one of the worst written series I've ever had the misfortune to read.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0&index=29&list=RDKNZSXnrbs_k

[Ysthrall]

A Game of Thrones? No.
Lord of the Rings? No. (Middle-earth first age: The Wars of Beleriand, yes)
Wheel of Time setting would make a good TW IMO.

sffrom, you innocent reader you :)
There are much much worse things out there than the Song if Ice and Fire....
The novelisation of the Lord of the Rings Films comes to mind...

(no, not the original book, the novelisation some idiot wrote of the films...)

[WalrusMan]

Ysthrall님이 먼저 게시:

A Game of Thrones? No.
Lord of the Rings? No. (Middle-earth first age: The Wars of Beleriand, yes)
Wheel of Time setting would make a good TW IMO.

sffrom, you innocent reader you :)
There are much much worse things out there than the Song if Ice and Fire....
The novelisation of the Lord of the Rings Films comes to mind...

(no, not the original book, the novelisation some idiot wrote of the films...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grtEt0Cudt8

#unexpectedsitcom

[Berserk Belta]

Wendersnaven님이 먼저 게시:

Casinomorph님이 먼저 게시:

Genesis didn't fail because it was a licensed asoiaf product - there are several other things that can be attributed to.

In case this is in doubt, both Westeros TW (especially AOPK) and the GoT mod for CK2 are fantastic, and demonstrate that the setting works excellently for both Total War and the Paradox grand strategy thing.

Exactly- correlation is not causation. Perhaps a translation error? :SlyNinja: I never said it failed because it was official, I was saying it failed "as" and official product- in comparison to a modular version. If it couldn't make it as the real deal, why would a mod work?

Perhaps. You said the IP is bland and unsustainable and failed as a theme, which would suggest you think it's inherently not going to work, which is why I mentioned those mods.

Genesis is an interesting curio for a strategy fan in terms of mechanics but it was a number of refinements away from holding the player base such a game needs.

I am unfamiliar with CK2, any good links to check out the GoT mod. I think that's great if they pulled it off.

Experience has taught me not to spam direct links with abandon where official eyes may be reluctantly forced to acknowledge having seen them, but both can be found on moddb. AGoT is the CK2 mod and Westeros TW the M2 mod.

Speaking of M2, this thing has played out to an extent with M2 mods, and the got/lotr ones are popular and good. Both settings offer times/places that may be arguably better for a TW game than the main narrative everybody knows (eg the age of petty kings, the earlier history of middle-earth, etc - not to mention I'd love to be able to fight for Gondolin in a mod some day)

For an official game instead of a mod either setting may suffer from the lack of technological/civil progress, which has always been something of a requirement for the TW campaign, however this game may change that and focus on other things. We'll see.

I doubt it will work with Warhammer though, as there are too many things to change and gaps to fill because the lore is so rich and deep.

It doesn't seem very likely that the campaign would be difficult to populate for an asoiaf game.

[Daryl]

TOTAL WAR: GAME OF THRONES TRILOGY

DAENERYS TARGARYEN GRAND CAMPAIGN

GAME 1: Still away from Westeros

Game 2: Still away from Westeros

Game 3 Final Part: Still away from Westeros but claiming in future she will eventually get to Westeros.

TOTAL WAR SPECIAL EDITION GAME OF THRONES ULTIMATE CONCLUSION

Daenerys reach Westeros, Westeros is 100% all "Others"
Daenerys' units get devoured by the "Others"
Daenerys still cant tame her dragon
Daenerys Dies
gg.

[WalrusMan]

Daryl님이 먼저 게시:

TOTAL WAR: GAME OF THRONES TRILOGY

DAENERYS TARGARYEN GRAND CAMPAIGN

GAME 1: Still away from Westeros

Game 2: Still away from Westeros

Game 3 Final Part: Still away from Westeros but claiming in future she will eventually get to Westeros.

TOTAL WAR SPECIAL EDITION GAME OF THRONES ULTIMATE CONCLUSION

Daenerys reach Westeros, Westeros is 100% all "Others"
Daenerys' units get devoured by the "Others"
Daenerys still cant tame her dragon
Daenerys Dies
gg.

You forgot the 10$ nude skin DLC for Daenerys.