in lore are trolls stronger then Minotaurs?

[axe11154]

I ask cause I made a custome battle with trolls vs minotaurs (Normal trolls vs normal minotaurs) and when they classed the minotaurs were flung every where. the trolls didnt budge. It was so weird. So Lore wise. are trolls stronger?

[PrettyBoy]

About the same, maybe with slight advantage to the trolls due to regen.

[ArchaicReaper]

I got curious and decided to google it, found my way to the forum for the Warhammer mod in Medieval II, and then read the words "Reiksguard Dismounted Halberdiers" so thanks for that headache. Jokes aside, I'm not sure. Minotaurs aren't as stupid as Trolls, but they do have Bloodgreed which can be exploited. Trolls Regenerate though which gives them an advantage. Although Minotaurs can become Gorebulls or even Doombulls, and aside from Troll variants like River or Rock the only Lord level Troll I know is Throgg the Troll King. So maybe Minotaurs have an edge because a Doombull with Minotaurs would probably cream some Trolls. Really hard to say.

[axe11154]

Originally posted by ArchaicReaper:

I got curious and decided to google it, found my way to the forum for the Warhammer mod in Medieval II, and then read the words "Reiksguard Dismounted Halberdiers" so thanks for that headache. Jokes aside, I'm not sure. Minotaurs aren't as stupid as Trolls, but they do have Bloodgreed which can be exploited. Trolls Regenerate though which gives them an advantage. Although Minotaurs can become Gorebulls or even Doombulls, and aside from Troll variants like River or Rock the only Lord level Troll I know is Throgg the Troll King. So maybe Minotaurs have an edge because a Doombull with Minotaurs would probably cream some Trolls. Really hard to say.

I added a doombull in the minotuars.... and did a game with out it... both same resulrt just a fe wmore casulties on the trol side.

[PrettyBoy]

The base stats in rpg are about the same with the troll having the regen ability. Both have the option of being leveled up and thus geting more stats.... If you decide to look at things like Doombull, your looking at a leveled up Minataur vs a non leveled up Troll... It isnt really something you can compare. The trolls are not tabletop friendly as there is no faction that offers champion trolls as far as i know (been some time since i played it) while beastmen faction have minataurs of different lvls... I would like to argue that my point is more accurate since the question was lore based and not table top based.

[SleepyNarwhalz]

Originally posted by axe11154:

Originally posted by ArchaicReaper:

I got curious and decided to google it, found my way to the forum for the Warhammer mod in Medieval II, and then read the words "Reiksguard Dismounted Halberdiers" so thanks for that headache. Jokes aside, I'm not sure. Minotaurs aren't as stupid as Trolls, but they do have Bloodgreed which can be exploited. Trolls Regenerate though which gives them an advantage. Although Minotaurs can become Gorebulls or even Doombulls, and aside from Troll variants like River or Rock the only Lord level Troll I know is Throgg the Troll King. So maybe Minotaurs have an edge because a Doombull with Minotaurs would probably cream some Trolls. Really hard to say.

I added a doombull in the minotuars.... and did a game with out it... both same resulrt just a fe wmore casulties on the trol side.

Gorebull*

[Sultschiem]

I would say ....Minotaurs.
Why? ....Minotaurs and Trolls are both really tough and Trolls have regeneration...
BUUT ... Minotaurs use weapons....and massive ones at that.

Minotaurs should also be taller than Trolls...they are said to be TOWERING over humans even more than trolls.

A standard minotaur vs a standard troll --> Minotaur would win the fight.
A standard minotaur vs a chaos troll (HUGELY increased regeneration, height and strenght) the chaos troll is more likely to win.

But a Gore- or Doombull? Or even a Minotaur with the Mark of Khorne? They would destroy the Trolls.

[SleepyNarwhalz]

Minotaurs would win in a fight. They can't regenerate like trolls but are stronger, have better weapons, can have leader style guys and have good leadership.

[White, the Loiterer]

In table-top, Minotaurs are better stat-wise in nearly every way.

[SleepyNarwhalz]

Also it looks like you either have either mods or terrible luck. I just did 1 mino vs 2 trolls and won, with more then half health left

[Tenshin51]

I will go w/ Minotaur they are just pure berserker. Trolls are just stupid and difficult to control in the battlefield. Trolls are much more like meatshield to soak all damage.

[Shandor]

As long the Mino has no Fire Waepons the Troll would win. Even if the Mino got better stats. Regen is just too strong.

I would not risk to send 9 Minos after 9 Trolls.

[SleepyNarwhalz]

Originally posted by Shandor:

As long the Mino has no Fire Waepons the Troll would win. Even if the Mino got better stats. Regen is just too strong.

I would not risk to send 9 Minos after 9 Trolls.

I just did multiple tests with 18 trolls vs 9 minos and 18 trolls vs 9 minos w/ great weapons and the minos always won hands down.

[axe11154]

Originally posted by SleepyNarwhalz:

Originally posted by Shandor:

As long the Mino has no Fire Waepons the Troll would win. Even if the Mino got better stats. Regen is just too strong.

I would not risk to send 9 Minos after 9 Trolls.

I just did multiple tests with 18 trolls vs 9 minos and 18 trolls vs 9 minos w/ great weapons and the minos always won hands down.

which were you controlling. cause I always controled the trolls. maybe which ever the player controls gives it the edge?

[Harukage]

On tabletop trolls have worse weapon skill, initiative and leadership. They also can only either have a hand weapon or 2 hand weapons. Plus troll vomit and regenerations.
Minotaurs have armor, acces to shields and great weapons as well as impact hits ( yeah, they just plow through units like chariots ) as well as better stats.
There is a reason why minotaurs cost 20 points more per model.

[SleepyNarwhalz]

Hmm yes it seems that as player you get a significant boost in performance. As player 18 trolls could beat 9 minos with heavy losses However they still lost to minos with great weapons