shaggoth the beastman?

[Merlindras]

okay so i dont know much about the fantasy lore (only ever read teh 40k novels)!! but ould someone explain to me why shaggoth sun eater is in teh chaos army but not the beatmans army faction, i know they both are followers of chaos, but the dude looks like a beastman but is in full chaos plating? did some chaos god give him this appearance? thanks to anyone who answers :)

[Karl Fletcher]

Dragon Ogres got moved from the Beastmen TT List to the Warriors of Chaos TT list.

[Merlindras]

I meant lore wise not game wise

[HuffingJenkem]

Originally posted by LordOfAutumn:

I meant lore wise not game wise

Dragon Ogres live in the Chaos Wastes, not the forests of the Old World. The only time they'd run into beastmen is during an incursion.

Lore wise, Dragon Ogres are one of the world's oldest races who traded eternal servitude for immortality when the Chaos Gods arrived.

[AriDeer]

Originally posted by LordOfAutumn:

I meant lore wise not game wise

Dragon Ogres are technically there own miniscule faction, they are also more civilized then beastmen iirc, and are an actual species and not mutated humans

[Merlindras]

I see, thanks for clearing that up guys, I just assumed a dragon ogre was a named beastman culture or somthing

[Luxivus]

Nah. Like the guys above said, Dragon Ogre's and Dragon Ogre Shaggoths are their own, non-beastmen related species that live in the chaos wastes and near mountains and caves, particularly areas where lightning would hit alot, as it gave them power. It's in the game lore for them, you can read it just by going into info about the unit card for it.

[Mister Palm Tree]

while we have dragon ogres in topic, nows a good time to mention that one of those mountains in the chaos wastes is actually a dragon ogre in slumber, they never stop growing.

[Reverend Belial]

Originally posted by Commander Greyscale:

while we have dragon ogres in topic, nows a good time to mention that one of those mountains in the chaos wastes is actually a dragon ogre in slumber, they never stop growing.

Krakanrok the Black, literal father of the Dragon Ogre race and largest living thing in existence. Even Archaon fears his power should he wake up.

[Merlindras]

Wow, that's so interesting, especially the mountain slumber bit! And thanks for telling me how to read lore bits in game :D helps a 40k guy out trying to learn fantasy

[Reverend Belial]

Originally posted by LordOfAutumn:

Wow, that's so interesting, especially the mountain slumber bit! And thanks for telling me how to read lore bits in game :D helps a 40k guy out trying to learn fantasy

If you weren't already aware I run a lore thread on this forum, so if you have specific questions about the setting I can probably answer some of them there.

[Merlindras]

Thanks man

[CryHavoc1134]

Beastmen came about as a result of Chaos corruption when the Old One’s fled the planet and the warp gates on the north and south poles began spewing daemons like a kid with swine flu.

Dragon Ogres, if I’m not mistaken, were around when the Old One’s first arrived and started
changing the planet to their liking. Their species predates the creation of the elves, dwarves, men and even the lizardmen. Sadly, for the Dragon Ogres, the Old Ones deemed their existence unsuitable and most of them were killed off.

To help save their species, the Dragon Ogres made a pact with Chaos for survival, and the Chaos gods kept their end but rendered them sterile in the process (seriously, never trust Tzeentch). So, they are still around, just very few in number.

So, while the Dragon Ogres are technically agents/beings of Chaos, their origin is not of Chaos like the Beastmen.

[Agrorix]

Originally posted by HuffingJenkem:

Originally posted by LordOfAutumn:

I meant lore wise not game wise

Dragon Ogres live in the Chaos Wastes, not the forests of the Old World. The only time they'd run into beastmen is during an incursion.

beastmen are crowding the wastes : they are the children of chaos, just saying...

http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/File:Beastmen_Map.jpg

[DD The Pumpkin King]

Originally posted by Reverend Belial:

Originally posted by Commander Greyscale:

while we have dragon ogres in topic, nows a good time to mention that one of those mountains in the chaos wastes is actually a dragon ogre in slumber, they never stop growing.

Krakanrok the Black, literal father of the Dragon Ogre race and largest living thing in existence. Even Archaon fears his power should he wake up.

Can you pick him out on the campaign map?

[Merlindras]

^ ive actually tried looking but couldnt spot any weird looking mountains (bar the skull ones XD)