Are beastmen allied with choas warriors? (in-game AND lore)

[Benny]

Just curious.. didnt get the chance to try it out in-game but just wanted to know since they have the same gods, etc.

[axe11154]

No. Chaos may be chaos but that just means it causes more chaos.

[Jakal, Lady kisser]

ally might be the wrong term, but beastmen are dim, violent savages that historically serve anyone that can take over through force. chaos, undead, the occasional orc warlord have all come in, kncoked some goat heads around and taken control of a tribe for a while. heck, there's been a couple times when one guy comes in, punks their leader, and just takes the whole group elsewhere.

[MLPMargeth]

Beastmen and Chaos are not technically allies, though Chaos armies do regularly field some amount of beastmen.
Beastmen just enjoy a good bashing and, in the way that they revere the strong, don't always have the need to fight in a beastmen-only army, as long as someone tough enough is leading it.

That said, they are not allies ingame.
They start as neutral, both with the norscan tribes as with the chaos hordes once they spawn.
Wether you fight with them, against them or just downright ignore them is pretty much your choice, though they may declare war on you if piss them off.

If I remember correctly, beastmen victory conditions don't give a particular reason to go to war gainst Chaos, so it really is up to you how you want to handle them.

[Nix]

Let's just say that the enemy of your enemy it's your friend. At least for the moment.

[deathmaster snikch]

who knows man i keep hearing for chaos and for the chaos gods from them so they probably are chaos lackeys or perhaps CA just reskined a bunch of chosen and forgot to remove the mvoice overs "shrugs"

[aurrelius]

One of only a few threads that appear to be interesting (in the foreground of amassed complaints of any kind)
Some legend and lore, background and faction information about warhammer in general.
That´s neat.
Is there acually a stickied lore section or so in this forum?
I´m sure there are several guys around that could provide tons of background material.
Some nice theories here in this thread about alignment and correlations, already.^^
Thx.

[Vargas78]

In the game they start of neutral but the possibility of an alliance is very real. In the lore they are prone to fight each other however, but because Khazrak is more intelligent than the typical beastman, and knows they share the same overlords, the possibility of an alliance is not against the lore. But it would likely be a weak alliance, even human chaos followers fight one another a lot after all. With beastmen vs humans its even more likely.

[Nix]

Originally posted by Burst Fire:

who knows man i keep hearing for chaos and for the chaos gods from them so they probably are chaos lackeys or perhaps CA just reskined a bunch of chosen and forgot to remove the mvoice overs "shrugs"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_(Warhammer)

Maybe you will understand a bit better :D

[deathmaster snikch]

Originally posted by Nix:

Originally posted by Burst Fire:

who knows man i keep hearing for chaos and for the chaos gods from them so they probably are chaos lackeys or perhaps CA just reskined a bunch of chosen and forgot to remove the mvoice overs "shrugs"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_(Warhammer)

Maybe you will understand a bit better :D

from wikipedia? hell no i rather ask the kid from the 1000+ post

[MLPMargeth]

Every faction even loosely related to any form of chaos has the "problem" of fighting pretty much anyone, even themselves.
Lore wise, the only cases I remember of chaos and beastmen fighting in the same armies (though with infighting, as usual) are the chaos incursions that occur every now and then.
Smaller scale, chaos warriors do sometimes venture into the lands of man and gain "control" of a herd by killing the local leader, thus becoming the leader of a horde for a while.

After just taking a quick look at a wiki (http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Beastmen), beastmen are considered part of the chaos faction, as they originate from the men inhabiting the forests, twisted by chaos once it descended onto the world, to what is known to us as beastmen.

[Lordgnu]

Originally posted by MLPMargeth:

Beastmen and Chaos are not technically allies, though Chaos armies do regularly field some amount of beastmen.
Beastmen just enjoy a good bashing and, in the way that they revere the strong, don't always have the need to fight in a beastmen-only army, as long as someone tough enough is leading it.

That said, they are not allies ingame.
They start as neutral, both with the norscan tribes as with the chaos hordes once they spawn.
Wether you fight with them, against them or just downright ignore them is pretty much your choice, though they may declare war on you if piss them off.

If I remember correctly, beastmen victory conditions don't give a particular reason to go to war gainst Chaos, so it really is up to you how you want to handle them.

In my campaign i have done a military alliance with them the first turn they arrive and there's nothing that can resist my Chaos United front. Everything is burning and the land is all corrupted.

[Shandor]

Beastman were the first Prototype of Chaos on some way.
But the Chaos gods learned that corrupted Humans are more effective then the Beastman and left them on thier own very much. They still can catch some attention from the Gods if they do some mayor slaughter but they favor the Chaos Warriors now. Thats why Archaon the ex-sigmar Priest is the Everchosen and not Malagor or some of the other Goat guys that throw thier excrements on Humans Ruins and think its an important thing to do.

Beastman are just to dumb to archieve what the Chaos Gods want. In the end times the Chaos Gods want to use the Biggest Beastman army ever exist to stop Nagash from raising and become the new God of Death. But the Vampires used some flying units like Bats to attack them always from the same side and made them a HUGE Train into a Dwarven army. (they where on the way to stop Nagash also) and wile the Beastman and Dwarves killed each other Nagash rised. Chaos warriors would have been smart enaugh to not fall in such a cheap trap. (Well maybe the Khorne Guys.. they are not that bright too)

[Benny]

Originally posted by Shandor:

Beastman were the first Prototype of Chaos on some way.
But the Chaos gods learned that corrupted Humans are more effective then the Beastman and left them on thier own very much. They still can catch some attention from the Gods if they do some mayor slaughter but they favor the Chaos Warriors now. Thats why Archaon the ex-sigmar Priest is the Everchosen and not Malagor or some of the other Goat guys that throw thier excrements on Humans Ruins and think its an important thing to do.

Beastman are just to dumb to archieve what the Chaos Gods want. In the end times the Chaos Gods want to use the Biggest Beastman army ever exist to stop Nagash from raising and become the new God of Death. But the Vampires used some flying units like Bats to attack them always from the same side and made them a HUGE Train into a Dwarven army. (they where on the way to stop Nagash also) and wile the Beastman and Dwarves killed each other Nagash rised. Chaos warriors would have been smart enaugh to not fall in such a cheap trap. (Well maybe the Khorne Guys.. they are not that bright too)

Thank you!