How to keep Awakened Tribes from fighting each other?

[Mr.Person]

First time playing chaos, all is going well so far (I have a crapton of money) but I just awakened my 2nd tribe, Aesling, and they Immediately Declared war on the other tribe, Baersonling. How do I get them to not declare war on each other? I kind of want that legendary lord for Having 4 awakened tribes, plus having all of them help me when I move south would be really nice.

Also, Is there a way I could make them my vassal? Even with my full stack army outside an unguarded city after I first awaken them, they won't be my vassal. I could use the extra income, and it would probably prevent the tribes from infighting if they are all my vassals.

[Steeltrap]

Attack them immediately after awakening, capture their settlement and you'll get the option to 'subjugate' them.
Stops all that nonsense.
You pay a price diplomatically, but everyone hates you anyway and you can't trade, so who cares?

[Mr.Person]

ah very good to know, now to backtrack a bit lol

Thanks, will help greatly.

[Shinkiro]

Also be aware this means they will be at war with everyone like you, Baersonling tend to get destroyed if you leave them alone (in my experience)

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by Mr.Person:

ah very good to know, now to backtrack a bit lol

Thanks, will help greatly.

You're welcome. Let me know if it still works. I discovered it by accident when one of mine declared war on another, making that latter one my enemy, too, and I just happened to be near it.

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by Br00tal Mclovin:

Also be aware this means they will be at war with everyone like you, Baersonling tend to get destroyed if you leave them alone (in my experience)

One thing that would help a LOT is if you could give a war coordination target of a faction's OWN settlement, essentially telling it to protect its own land.

Stupid AI blunders off with armies while leaving their homes undefended.

Mind you, Chaos later in the game is designed to operate better in ENEMY territory than in friendly (tech + hero skills), so using friendly territory for replenishment is really only relevant in the early part of the game (until you kill a certain mystery guest, so to speak).

Once I have skills to recruit lvl 8 troops at significant discounts in enemy territory, I don't care what happens to the North because I don't need it and will wreck any AI dumb enough to have sent their armies there.

[Vain]

Originally posted by Steeltrap:

Attack them immediately after awakening, capture their settlement and you'll get the option to 'subjugate' them.
Stops all that nonsense.
You pay a price diplomatically, but everyone hates you anyway and you can't trade, so who cares?

I've subjugated them and it didn't stop them from fighting each other.

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by TheBigBearBoy:

Originally posted by Steeltrap:

Attack them immediately after awakening, capture their settlement and you'll get the option to 'subjugate' them.
Stops all that nonsense.
You pay a price diplomatically, but everyone hates you anyway and you can't trade, so who cares?

I've subjugated them and it didn't stop them from fighting each other.

Odd, it did in my game.

[Mr.Person]

None of the ones I have awakened then subjugated are fighting each other in my game. And I have 4 of them now lol

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by Mr.Person:

None of the ones I have awakened then subjugated are fighting each other in my game. And I have 4 of them now lol

That's what I expected.

[Mr.Person]

Well I am necro'ing my own thread because now I went back in a new chaos game (only got around 40 turns into the one from the OP before I recently got mods and restarted) and now even when I subjugate them there are still problems.

I awakened and subjugated two tribes, but when I awakened a third, then declared war on them to subjugate them, the other two I had didn't join me which means they broke away and are now at war with me again. So I re-loaded and didn't subjugate the third tribe, but then in the next few turns, the two I had subjugated broke away from me and are now at war with me and the newest tribe again.

So I still have the issue where I can't unite all the tribes, and even with just one big powerful one, they either rebel against me, or break out of my subjugation.

Any more tips?

[linas.warrior]

I subjugated all of the Norsca tribes and when I did that all the fighting between them has stopped.

[Mr.Person]

Originally posted by linas.warrior:

I subjugated all of the Norsca tribes and when I did that all the fighting between them has stopped.

Like I said in my recent post, I did that, but now instead of fighting each other, eventually they break away from me and go to war with me again.

[Fry93]

Originally posted by linas.warrior:

I subjugated all of the Norsca tribes and when I did that all the fighting between them has stopped.

Did that too. But than I went south, discovered Bretonia which led to a declaration of war from Bretonia and all 6 norsca tribes broke off. Why do I have to take my vassals into wars? Why do they dare to rebel against Archaon ones he has beaten their asses bloody?
From now on I will only awaken 1 tribe with the last norscan settlement after I wiped out all the others and will just keep it as an ally.

[The Mighty Mulletman]

Originally posted by Fry93:

Originally posted by linas.warrior:

I subjugated all of the Norsca tribes and when I did that all the fighting between them has stopped.

Did that too. But than I went south, discovered Bretonia which led to a declaration of war from Bretonia and all 6 norsca tribes broke off. Why do I have to take my vassals into wars? Why do they dare to rebel against Archaon ones he has beaten their asses bloody?
From now on I will only awaken 1 tribe with the last norscan settlement after I wiped out all the others and will just keep it as an ally.

Sounds shockingly like what happened to me. I subjegated 4 of the tribes then headed south into Bretonnia. They all broke away and declared war on me when I declared war on Bretonnia. So much for my dreams of 4 tribes sending armies to invade the Empire.
I'm half and half on whether to leave them be or letting my other 2 hordes in the region deal with them all.

Agreed. I'll be doing the same as well. From now on only one tribe gets to survive.

[Jonesy]

Be aware that, even when they're subjugating, calling on them to join in a new war against someone they don't absolutely despise can give them the option to refuse, which will break your subjugation treaty.