Blood Knights vs. Demiglyph Knights

[نيْثان على البُخا]

Have done some tests in custom battle and it appears that the end of the battle depends on which unit uses its charge bonus to complete effect. Could be wrong looking for feedback.

[نيْثان على البُخا]

Also the Blood Knights appear to be a match to the op demiglyph knights, is that really necesary when the vampires have the lore of death.

[Uugly]

They don't routed so that make them really OP when fight in a large group.

[Nerivant]

If I remember correctly Blood Knights are literally the best shock cavalry in the TT, they can even beat grail knights in a charge, so yeah, they should win against demi's. Also Demi knights are meant for more staying power, theyre slower, not as much charge, but last far longer and have more melee attack once their charge is over.

[Harukage]

Pfft. BLOOD KNIGHTS ARE THE BEST KNIGHTS IN THE WARHAMMER WORLD. Literally. Even grail knights are somewhat worse. It is not a surprise BK they can beat some empire's knights on overgrown birds.

[Brother Frank]

Originally posted by Nerivant:

If I remember correctly Blood Knights are literally the best shock cavalry in the TT, they can even beat grail knights in a charge, so yeah, they should win against demi's. Also Demi knights are meant for more staying power, theyre slower, not as much charge, but last far longer and have more melee attack once their charge is over.

That's correct, Blood Knights are THE BEST indeed.

[نيْثان على البُخا]

Why make blood knights so op when the vampires have lore of death and the lore of vampires, those two lores make the vampires one of the best factions already, why give them even more power? This facton needs to be balanced a bit i think.

[rhettrongun]

Well, they do have the whole attrition problem outside of their territory, plus some major diplomacy issues.

[Warlord]

2 OP

plz nerf

[Reverend Belial]

Originally posted by Vali:

Why make blood knights so op when the vampires have lore of death and the lore of vampires, those two lores make the vampires one of the best factions already, why give them even more power? This facton needs to be balanced a bit i think.

Because lore. Like three people already said, Blood Knights are the best cavalry on the planet. Period. As is they're actually WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY underpowered for what they are.

[SnugglyPuffs]

Blood Knights cost more than any other mounted unit. They are more expensive than even Demigryph knights at the moment. They should be incredibly powerful and limited in number, I think they hit the mark.

[DeathHead]

Yeah and that magical oomf can fizzle out rather quickly as well. It's good to see the Blood Knights finally.

[SleepyNarwhalz]

Did you use demi gryphs with halberds?

[chef]

Originally posted by Vali:

Why make blood knights so op when the vampires have lore of death and the lore of vampires, those two lores make the vampires one of the best factions already, why give them even more power? This facton needs to be balanced a bit i think.

Theres more lores coming though that shou;ld balance things out a bit. Lore of shadows seems pretty good, also the chaos god specific lores.

heres a decent overview of some.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_Magic#Amber:_Wind_of_Ghur.2C_Lore_of_Beasts

[Uugly]

OP want to compared to the Empire roster. So the grave guard could win the greatswordmens with fear ability. The flying bats could easily catch any missile infantry or cavalry. Their main lord are actaully quite powerful with death magic and healing. Hero also quite good too. Regenerate abused. Their only downside is lack of missile and siege.

All of that and the only units the Empire got is basically Demigryph Knights. The only outstanding units now are being replaced by another race that are just already powerful enough. My guess now is the Empire got is siege weapons, which it's just useless.

With this patch the Empire seem to be more weaker.

[Martialis]

Originally posted by no1:

OP want to compared to the Empire roster. So the grave guard could win the greatswordmens with fear ability. The flying bats could easily catch any missile infantry or cavalry. Their main lord are actaully quite powerful with death magic and healing. Hero also quite good too. Regenerate abused. Their only downside is lack of missile and siege.

All of that and the only units the Empire got is basically Demigryph Knights. The only outstanding units now are being replaced by another race that are just already powerful enough. My guess now is the Empire got is siege weapons, which it's just useless.

With this patch the Empire seem to be more weaker.

Yeah, the empire infantry and cav are a bit weaker than I think they should be, but what about steam tanks? I've won enitre battles with just a few of them, even after their missiles are gone and having to rely on their melee attack and everybody else has routed. Conversely, I've lost battles vs those stupid tanks.

Which is a good question, what about blood knights vs steam tanks?