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Don't forget that Tolkien riped of Scandinavien Folk lore!
Rip off is too harsh a word, but they definately owe their existence to Tolkiens dwarves. The stocky, strong, dour, stoic, beer swilling, beared warrior/miner. Who is greedy but honorable. Are all based on the Tolkien archtype. It particular, Dungeons and Dragons, Warhammer and warcraft dwarves (which in turn borrowed a lot from warhammer) can be traced directly to Tolkien.
Prior to Tolkien we had the dwarves of german/nordic myths who Tolkien himself borrowed from but they werent the stocky honorable warriors that went on to be seen in d&d, warhammer and warcraft. They were more like the ones from snow white and the seven dwarfs but unlike those, they could be evil or good.
Tolkien lent his ideas from norse mythology.
derp? so youre insulting random folk who disagree with you personally? rude much and for absolutely no reason, no you are wrong, completely. my opinion matters as much as your own but the difference is that i dont have a need to be right or the ego, the link you used is a blog where some one who thinks similarly to you in regards to the items of the dwarfs but i disagree, theres no spells, no fireballs in amulets or wands. its really quite subtle compared to the overtness of WH magic. you can argue its not really magic in that sense, if you like too. as for the lore, Well, you can imagine you know more but thats just your opinion and since you dont value an opinion, i have to do the same with you.
theres no magic in LOTR in the same way as in WH, in tolkiens own words;
"I am afraid I have been far too casual about 'magic' and especially the use of the word; though Galadriel and others show by the criticism of the 'mortal' use of the word, that the thought about it is not altogether casual. But it is a v. large question, and difficult; and a story which . . . is largely about motives""
― J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter 155
"For this is what your folk would call magic. I believe; though I do not understand clearly what they mean; and they seem also to use the same word of the deceits of the Enemy"
― Galadriel, The Mirror of Galadriel
The constructions of Dwarves had properties which might be seen as magical. An example could be the Doors of Durin which opened by themselves upon saying the word mellon, without visible machinery or other assistance. The magical appearance could be the technology of Dwarven ingenuity and craftsmanship. The Elven Door was created by the Dwarven craftsman Narvi and inscribed by the Elf-lord Celebrimbor with letters and signs fashioned in ithildin.
Another Dwarven door is seen in The Hobbit. The Back Door of the Lonely Mountain was a hidden, seamless door which had a keyhole that would only be revealed on Durin's Day. The key lines that may infer an enchantment on the door are:
A gleam of light came straight through the opening into the bay and fell on the smooth rock-face. The old thrush . . . gave a sudden trill. There was a loud crack. A flake of rock split from the wall and fell. A hole appeared suddenly about three feet from the ground.
—J.R.R. Tolkien, The Hobbit, "On the Doorstep"
This appears to be what Tolkien might refer to as magia, or physical magic, because there is a crack and a flake of rock falls off the wall.
or the mithril vest, which is armour, what magic property does it have? its light? strong? thats from the properties of the material, not a spell.
.R.R. Tolkien discussed the operations and moral dimensions of magic in Letter 155 of The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien. This letter is actually an unsent part of a draft of Letter 154 which was dated September 25, 1954.
Magic in Middle-earth was explained as an innate ability set of the Ainur and the Firstborn, to the exclusion of other peoples. Regardless, The Silmarillion and The Lord of the Rings both contain descriptions of special items and weapons that are said to have been crafted by Men and Dwarves, such as the dagger wielded by Merry which stabbed the Witch-king and Angrist.[21][17]
The area of discussion in the letter is the difference between magia and goeteia, with magia (physical magic) usually noted as good and goeteia (charm and conjuring magic) as bad. He wrote, "neither is, in this tale, good or bad (per se), but only by motive or purpose or use. Both sides use both, but with different motives." The evil motive was to use it to dominate free will. The Enemy used his magia to "bulldoze" both people and things and used his goeteia to terrify and subjugate. The Elves and Gandalf sparingly used magia for specific beneficial purposes (like burning pine cones to toss at the Wargs), and their goetic effects were "entirely artistic and not intended to deceive: they never deceive Elves (but may deceive or bewilder unaware Men)." For Elves, the difference was as clear to them as the difference to us between art (fiction, painting, and sculpture) and life.
At the end of the draft noted as Letter 155, he wrote "a difference between the use of 'magic' in this story [The Lord of the Rings] is that it is not to be come by by 'lore' or spells; but it is an inherent power not possessed or attainable by Men as such."[1] While "Aragorn's 'healing' might be regarded as 'magical', or at least a blend of magic and pharmacy and 'hypnotic' processes . . . A. is not a pure 'Man', but at long remove one of the 'children of Lúthien'." However, in The Fellowship of the Ring at the Doors of Durin, Gandalf said, "I once knew every spell in all the tongues of Elves or Men or Orcs, that was ever used for such a purpose. I can still remember ten score of them without searching in my mind."
The Númenórean Question: Since this 1954 letter draft was unsent, he seemed undecided on the total exclusion of Men from spellcasting. Since Men did not have the natural skill to weave their own spirit into things or ideas, they may have used spells. Alongside the final paragraph of Letter 155, which ended with the explanation that Aragorn was distantly of Lúthien's line, Tolkien wrote this question: "'But the Númenóreans used "spells" in making swords?'
In a later work completed by 1959, the Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth, there is an amended note which contains the Tale of Adanel in which the strongest and the cruellest of the fallen Men who worshipped Morgoth, during the dawn of Men in Middle-earth, were given "gifts" and "knowledge that they kept secret" which made them "powerful and proud," and with their new power, they enslaved the other Men. In this later text, Men could be given artefacts or taught lore, but magic remained a noninherent trait.
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Magic#Dwarven_magic
Weapons and armour of Middle-earth are found in J. R. R. Tolkien's Middle-earth fantasy writings, such as The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings and The Silmarillion. Wars and battles are featured in much of Tolkien's writings, and weapons and armour are often given special attention.
Tolkien modelled his fictional warfare on the Ancient and Early Middle periods of history. His depiction of weapons and armour particularly reflect the Northern European culture of Beowulf, the Norse sagas and similar works. Tolkien established this relationship in The Fall of Gondolin, the first story in his legendarium to be written. In this story, the Elves of Gondolin use mail armour, swords, shields, spears, axes and bows, which is consistent with Northern European warfare. In Tolkien's writings, these kinds of weapons and armour are used by his fictional races, including Elves, Dwarves, Men, Hobbits, and Orcs. Like his sources Tolkien sometimes uses the motif of ceremonial runic inscriptions in his fictional items of warfare to show these items are magical and have their own history
I cant stand people like you.
lol yea, youre wrong and now, you know it.
did you read fully the link you posted? because look what is at the bottom of the text. As i say, people like you are just the worst.
“Magic” is the word that J.R.R. Tolkien struggled with. To him it was not really “magic” but rather a native talent which some possessed in far greater measure than others. Tolkien might have agreed with Arthur C. Clarke’s statement that “any sufficiently advanced technology seems like magic”. In fact, one day we may each be served by little swarms of semi-intelligent robots that can assemble themselves into all sorts of useful devices, devices perhaps controlled by our thoughts (in that they will passively detect and analyze our brainwaves).
Conceptually all these technologies exist today. We are still in the process of figuring out how to produce the obedient semi-intelligent swarms that can communicate with us, which will obey us, and which will be capable of doing things we cannot do directly with our hands. Such synergistic capabilities would surely seem like magic even to early generations of the 20th century, would they not?
Tolkien’s Dwarves were what he called technologists, and though he did not envision swarms of nanobots doing the bidding of Elves and Dwarves he did nonetheless see these two races possessing the ability to “enchant” the world around them. The magic did not vanish when the last Elf sailed over Sea or faded. It remained here, right here in Middle-earth. It’s just that it takes a different form under a human hand. Our “magic” is more mundane than the magic of the Elves and Dwarves. We cannot sing things into existence (yet) but we can sing in ways that our ancestors never dreamed of.
To be a Dwarf in Middle-earth is to be attuned to the world and to possess the ability to change that world according to one’s will, in some measure — perhaps less so than an elf and more so than a man. One should never doubt that the Dwarves can use magic, for without it they would be lost and lonely in Middle-earth.
ive read the entire thing. the part I posted is the last paragraph, which clearly, you didnt read.
Why cant you understad this? its your ego, you have an opinion and i was fine with that but telling me my opinion is wrong while yours is right, nope. Tolkien himself thinks of it as not really “magic”. case closed.