Empire Helblaster Volley Guns bad?

[kesuga7]

I had a army of 20 helbringer cannons vs 10 rushing meele infantry - they only took out A SINGLE SQUAD(skeleton Spearmen) before they got to me
I know my tactics are awful but do Helbringer cannons seem really weak to anyone else?

[Sheytanaslan]

Doom riders are best!
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[kesuga7]

Originally posted by Sheytanaslan:

Doom riders are best!
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wat

[Sheytanaslan]

Originally posted by kesuga7:

Originally posted by Sheytanaslan:

Doom riders are best!
(chews corns)

wat

Doom riders!
(chews corns)

[Congo_Jack]

Helbringer cannons?

[SuperGorp]

I think some of that expensive Empire arty is more to weaken and soften up some of the monster troops you face later. More for robbing hit points than total kills.

[ChibiFenrir]

I'm guessing you mean helvolley, and atm that thing is pretty useless it is okay at killing heros and like trolls and maybe cav units haven't really tested it on cav other then demi's and they suck at killing demi's xD

[Saint Landwalker]

I assume you mean the imperial Helblaster Volley Guns. In which case, although I haven't used them yet, I can see a couple of potential issues:

1) Artillery isn't supposed to be the army, it's supposed to support the army. I wouldn't expect an army solely of Helblaster cannon units to win a battle against practically anything.
2) Helblasters in particular are best employed against armored targets (because of their AP missiles), which skeletons are decidedly not.

[ChibiFenrir]

Originally posted by Landwalker04:

I assume you mean the imperial Helblaster Volley Guns. In which case, although I haven't used them yet, I can see a couple of potential issues:

1) Artillery isn't supposed to be the army, it's supposed to support the army. I wouldn't expect an army solely of Helblaster cannon units to win a battle against practically anything.
2) Helblasters in particular are best employed against armored targets (because of their AP missiles), which skeletons are decidedly not.

thier "ap missiles" aren't even that high in ap tbh :P

[kesuga7]

Originally posted by Landwalker04:

I assume you mean the imperial Helblaster Volley Guns. In which case, although I haven't used them yet, I can see a couple of potential issues:

1) Artillery isn't supposed to be the army, it's supposed to support the army. I wouldn't expect an army solely of Helblaster cannon units to win a battle against practically anything.
2) Helblasters in particular are best employed against armored targets (because of their AP missiles), which skeletons are decidedly not.

funny thing is though with the autoresolve system a entire army of artillery will win any battle if you use auto resolve

[ChibiFenrir]

so each "bullet" it fires does 6 missile damage and 24 ap damage it fires 9 shots then has to reload for 10 seconds with a range of 200 so it gets of 1 or 2 volleys if you are luckys so they are good a mowing down high value tagets like lords but just in general killing they are pretty bad

[ChibiFenrir]

Originally posted by kesuga7:

Originally posted by Landwalker04:

I assume you mean the imperial Helblaster Volley Guns. In which case, although I haven't used them yet, I can see a couple of potential issues:

1) Artillery isn't supposed to be the army, it's supposed to support the army. I wouldn't expect an army solely of Helblaster cannon units to win a battle against practically anything.
2) Helblasters in particular are best employed against armored targets (because of their AP missiles), which skeletons are decidedly not.

funny thing is though with the autoresolve system a entire army of artillery will win any battle if you use auto resolve

that's auto resolve, it's comfiremed it is totally broken atm

[Saint Landwalker]

Originally posted by kesuga7:

funny thing is though with the autoresolve system a entire army of artillery will win any battle if you use auto resolve

At no point in the history of the Total War series has the autoresolve system been an accurate predicator of anything whatsoever.

[StarofTanuki]

True story you should know , Mortar and doomdriver is best of all artillery .

If you thinking artillery is good , change it to crossbow you'll chage your mind.

Don't think about we past , now it warhammer , battle in 5 min no place for artillery anymore !!

[StarofTanuki]

fu*** 4 min battle speed.

[Sheytanaslan]

Originally posted by >po|nt`|ockout.,~*:

True story you should know , Mortar and doomdriver is best of all artillery .

If you thinking artillery is good , change it to crossbow you'll chage your mind.

Don't think about we past , now it warhammer , battle in 5 min no place for artillery anymore !!

Doomriders...
(chews corns)