Do you think the Stormcast Eternals will appear eventually?

[MSgt Peterson]

One of my friends brought it up, had no clue but curious on other's people thoughts. The stormcast eternals are apart of the Warhammer Fantasy universe but I think Total war going to stick with Warhammer Fantasy 8th edition then 9th edition with Age of Sigmar

[Ysthrall]

You are correct, this game is unlikely to ever move beyond 8th edition basic. I think the most you can expect in terms of storyline progression is an End Times DLC, after all the other portions of the game hhave been released, which is highly unlikely.

[Glymner]

9th edition XD

[MSgt Peterson]

lol

[Grey Seer Campbell]

Don't believe there is much demand for Age of Sigmar's Marines.

We need Skaven though, yes-yes.

[MSgt Peterson]

Skaven def need to be in the game as well as beastmen, tomb lords, the elves, all the Chaos Gods need to be included, Proper blood knights need to be in etc

[SnugglyPuffs]

I doubt it, and I hope not. Keep Space Marines in 40k, this coming from somebody who loves 40k. Age of Sigmar is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ joke, a big steaming pile of ♥♥♥♥ taken on Warhammer fans because that's what GamesWorkshop likes to do.

[MSgt Peterson]

indeed, am a huge Bretonnia fan, it's nice to see them in a warhammer game since Dark Omen

[Steppenrazor]

please no.

by all the dark gods NO!

[C4Warr10r]

Originally posted by SnugglyPuffs:

I doubt it, and I hope not. Keep Space Marines in 40k, this coming from somebody who loves 40k. Age of Sigmar is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ joke, a big steaming pile of ♥♥♥♥ taken on Warhammer fans because that's what GamesWorkshop likes to do.

I really do have to wonder sometimes. But then reality sets in. It's not like GW honestly TRIES to piss off its own fanbase. They just have some people who don't know what they are doing, are subscribed to a Labour Party corporate philiosophy where they don't just fire those people, and happen to live in Britain and so make expensive products.

GW is not the first British company, not even the first British miniatures company, to go through this exact same process. Models, minis, even porcelain dolls and stuff used to be a big industry in Britain, created and cast by specialists. Companies like "Britain's Toy Soldiers" and "Royal Doulton" just to name a couple of the more famous ones have had a difficult time in the postmodern world. Their methodology is simply outdated, there is no market for such specialization in that field anymore.

BTS fought for decades to keep their industry going, but eventually they had to outsource almost all production and sell parts of the company. What remains of the original still prodcues VERY limited numbers of soldiers, knights, and whatnot cast in Stirling silver or Pewter. Last time I was in the Isles, they were reatiling for almost forty pounds apiece.

Games Workshop is fighting that same battle, a losing one if you ask me. Once everyone who plays Warhammer series games has the models, the market is glutted and they must create a demand for new ones. Age of Sigmar was a disastrous attempt to do this, but there are many others. Certain rulebooks that were questionable, and in 40K the new aircraft rules practically mandate model purchases. I had to spend almost $400 on StormRaven gunships to maintain control of the skies just because of one rule: Skyfire.

Not the first time, and won't be the last, I'm sure. But even British have to eat something in between sips of tea.

[Steppenrazor]

Originally posted by C4Warr10r:

Games Workshop is fighting that same battle, a losing one if you ask me. Once everyone who plays Warhammer series games has the models, the market is glutted and they must create a demand for new ones. Age of Sigmar was a disastrous attempt to do this, but there are many others. Certain rulebooks that were questionable, and in 40K the new aircraft rules practically mandate model purchases. I had to spend almost $400 on StormRaven gunships to maintain control of the skies just because of one rule: Skyfire.

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fair points.

But i'd have been happier had they just done Age of Sigmar as another of their spin off games. like gorkamorka, mordhime, Man o' war, Epic. bloodbowl etc.

I mean they still have sevral factions they could have brought into the main Warhammer. Cathay? Nippon, Araby that would have breathed a bit of new life into Warhammer. (and likely attracted new gamers who like the mythos of them areas..)

would have let them try bring in new cash.. (both off the spin off and from the new races/factions in the base/core game)

heck - i remember when they brought in tomb kings.. lizardmen.. some of my fellow gamers, rushed to buy the new toys.... some got just one or the other, few bought some of both.. plus the rule books etc.

but no, they decided to end Warhammer, and replace it. sigh

[miqz]

I hope to god that skubmarines never appear in the game

[BrianDavion]

If this game is sucessful, and if the additional stand alones planned work out ok, I'd not be TOO suprised if they eventually tried a age of sigmar stand alone. right now's too early though as GW's not fully fleshed out the factions

[Rogue Scientist]

Well, basically they weren't selling enough of the current Warhammer Fantasy figures. While it had a significant fanbase, it wasn't buying lots of new figures (which makes sense - once you have an army you aren't likely to replace the figures, and there are only so many "new" units they could come up with). And the games that were *gaining* popularity all had much smaller army sizes and simpler rules. So I understand exactly why they felt the need to "shake things up", even if I'm not jumping at the chance to play the new edition.

Fortunately they've decided to license Warhammer for all sorts of things, so we don't have to worry about the "world" going away.

As far as bringing Age of Sigmar stuff into Total War? It's certainly possible (the devs have promised a trilogy of games), but remember Age of Sigmar is a completly different *world* than the "standard" Warhammer Fantasy world, so I would expect it to be a different standalone game. I'm also not sure its the same "scale" as classic Warhammer. Classic Warhammer was focused on blocks of troops, and it was always designed that a few miniatures were supposed to represent a much larger force. It's easy to translate 100 models of Warhammer to the 1000+ troops of a total war army. Age of Sigmar, however, is more skirmish-y. I'm not sure they imagine Stormcast Eternals in armies of hundreds or thousands (I haven't read the latest lore), so it might not translate as well to the Total War engine. If nothing else it won't be as "natural" to scale things up....

[MSgt Peterson]

everyone knows gamesworkshop will die one day, I love my bretonnia army figures but if I can play a table top game on the PC, whats the point of the figures on tabletop? especially if you dont have anyone around or at your store or if there all sore losers. I still remember when some loser lost to a female gamer that was using female space marines and when he lost, he threw and broke a 150$ forge world tank(I think it was a Spartan Assault Tank)

[Jelly]

♥♥♥♥ AoS