How to kill the Mortis Engine?

[Rabenschwarz]

I lost all battles versus VC as Greenskins due to the mortis engine.
What is the best way to get rid of it?

[✳Sindri Myr✳]

Originally posted by Typhoon:

I lost all battles versus VC as Greenskins due to the mortis engine.
What is the best way to get rid of it?

thats what im asking myself eversince release. It has tons of HP and does AOE damage and buff to friendlies. Kinda one of those things you want to get rid of in the first place, but the undead masses serve as good shield for it.

[Rabenschwarz]

and it is fast (for a war engine).

[✳Sindri Myr✳]

Originally posted by Typhoon:

and it is fast (for a war engine).

And scary!^^

[The Mighty Mulletman]

Skirmishes do quite well. Two arrar boyz can whittle it down in no time. Rock lobbers and doom divers should do well as well if you have a couple of them.

Another soft counter would be boar boys big 'uns for the bonus vs large and the cycle charge.

[θάνατος]

i used 2 untis of Doom Diver Catapults and focus it down, those things can turn the tide of a battle.

[Sargeist]

How good are mortis engines in melee? I haven't tried them out yet

[Naughty Mouse]

It is given to the only faction that has no missle troops. But in fact it is a short range damage unit, similar to missle units. For Dwarfs and Empire, use crossbow, 4 units or more concentrated on it will take it down fast. Orcs use Orc Archers, same thing. Beastmen and Chaos are harder to take them, as both do not have bow or xbow units. Guess brute force will have to do there.

[Tenshin51]

Use magic lol!!! Let the Shaman dance

[The Mighty Mulletman]

Originally posted by Tenshin51:

Use magic lol!!! Let the Shaman dance

It's somewhat magic resistant.

[✳Sindri Myr✳]

Originally posted by The MulletMan:

Originally posted by Tenshin51:

Use magic lol!!! Let the Shaman dance

It's somewhat magic resistant.

Fire?

[Rabenschwarz]

Originally posted by ✳Sindri Myr✳:

Originally posted by The MulletMan:

It's somewhat magic resistant.

Fire?

I don't know any Greenskin unit that causes fire damage.
The best way is to focus it with your high damage dealers (Lords, Heroes, Giant and Arachnarok). But after the kill you ususally have your strong units standing surrounded by enemies. That's not nice ...

[Procrastinating Gamer]

Originally posted by Ahriman:

How good are mortis engines in melee? I haven't tried them out yet

According to the online encyclopedia, average Melee Attack, high Weapon Strength, poor charge bonus for something that's basically a chariot, poor armour...[whenc.totalwar.com] yeah; you're not gonna be using this thing for melee combat if you can avoid it.

Originally posted by Naughty Mouse:

Beastmen... are harder to take them, as both do not have bow or xbow units.

What do you call these guys, then?[whenc.totalwar.com] :P


As to the OP; I'm in the camp of focussed missile fire - it's a large target so it won't be obscured by your front lines, it's got low-ish armour so even cheap bow and crossbow units will be able to damage it, most VC players are probably going to keep it behind their front line in order to buff them and damage your own front line so you should have plenty of time to shoot it to pieces.

[Aluminum Elite Master]

I'd go with Doom Divers. They are a solid option in this case, so long as you guard them properly.

Otherwise, your cavalry and/or ranged units might do the trick... the whole thing is that the Mortis Engine has to be relatively close to your forces, so it tends to end up in range of most archers and such.

If the Mortis Engine is poorly guarded, though, basically any decent melee unit(s) can do solid damage to it and drive it off. Someone above wrote a basic description of the Mortis Engine, and it indeed is not a solid melee unit if put up against strong enemies (your Black Orcs would out-class it hands-down AFAIK).

[✳Sindri Myr✳]

Originally posted by Cans:

I'd go with Doom Divers. They are a solid option in this case, so long as you guard them properly.

Otherwise, your cavalry and/or ranged units might do the trick... the whole thing is that the Mortis Engine has to be relatively close to your forces, so it tends to end up in range of most archers and such.

If the Mortis Engine is poorly guarded, though, basically any decent melee unit(s) can do solid damage to it and drive it off. Someone above wrote a basic description of the Mortis Engine, and it indeed is not a solid melee unit if put up against strong enemies (your Black Orcs would out-class it hands-down AFAIK).

Yeah, except your black orks get wasted by enemy charging at you from behind. also its not that easy to fight your way through to it. Cav could work though, but i doubt it. Archers should be the best choice imo.

[Emmental]

Originally posted by Shadow88:

Originally posted by Ahriman:

How good are mortis engines in melee? I haven't tried them out yet

According to the online encyclopedia, average Melee Attack, high Weapon Strength, poor charge bonus for something that's basically a chariot, poor armour...[whenc.totalwar.com] yeah; you're not gonna be using this thing for melee combat if you can avoid it.

Originally posted by Naughty Mouse:

Beastmen... are harder to take them, as both do not have bow or xbow units.

What do you call these guys, then?[whenc.totalwar.com] :P


As to the OP; I'm in the camp of focussed missile fire - it's a large target so it won't be obscured by your front lines, it's got low-ish armour so even cheap bow and crossbow units will be able to damage it, most VC players are probably going to keep it behind their front line in order to buff them and damage your own front line so you should have plenty of time to shoot it to pieces.

Except any VC player that knows what they're doing will tie up all your ranged stuff with flyers. So the greenskin player sunk funds in to missile units that end up in melee after 1 or 2 volleys.