Why does the Chaos gods want to destroy the Warhammer world?

[Irongut]

As far as I understand the Lore, the Chaosgods feast upon the feelings and emotions of all living beeings. If they destroy The World they cannot feed themselvs anymore and starve to nonexistens.

[ArchaicReaper]

They didn't actually want to, pre-End Times that is. Archaon did for that exact reason, his goal was to kill the gods of man and chaos alike. Post End Times it was revealed that the world existed as a cycle of Chaos winning and then everything being recreated so they can play again, because it's like a game to them. If I recall they got bored and destroyed it for a new game, which led into Age of Sigmar where they have much less of a stranglehold on everything so it's more of a toss up if they can actually win this time.

[Mike]

As far as I can tell in AoS they have already lost as most races aren't all together in the one world/relm, but in seperate ones. Also everyone isn't all in for themselves, the line is in the sand and everyone is on one side or the other, more unity.

[khinra]

Originally posted by ArchaicReaper:

They didn't actually want to, pre-End Times that is. Archaon did for that exact reason, his goal was to kill the gods of man and chaos alike. Post End Times it was revealed that the world existed as a cycle of Chaos winning and then everything being recreated so they can play again, because it's like a game to them. If I recall they got bored and destroyed it for a new game, which led into Age of Sigmar where they have much less of a stranglehold on everything so it's more of a toss up if they can actually win this time.

The chaos gods played poor old Archaon like a harpsicord, they knew fully well what would happen if he ever got his mitts on that blackhole trinket. Anyways, they exist in all times and on countless worlds so what does one more or less matter to them.

[ArchaicReaper]

Originally posted by khinra:

Originally posted by ArchaicReaper:

They didn't actually want to, pre-End Times that is. Archaon did for that exact reason, his goal was to kill the gods of man and chaos alike. Post End Times it was revealed that the world existed as a cycle of Chaos winning and then everything being recreated so they can play again, because it's like a game to them. If I recall they got bored and destroyed it for a new game, which led into Age of Sigmar where they have much less of a stranglehold on everything so it's more of a toss up if they can actually win this time.

The chaos gods played poor old Archaon like a harpsicord, they knew fully well what would happen if he ever got his mitts on that blackhole trinket. Anyways, they exist in all times and on countless worlds so what does one more or less matter to them.

Yeah that's the new canon I mentioned. Old canon, meaning before End Times, there was no cycle of worlds or anything and no indication that they exist across timelines or something. He earned his glory and demanded their favor, which they were forced to give due to his deeds, and they were unable to kill him despite his goal of destroying them. As for new canon, from what I've heard he's basically a chaos god himself now so their plan of playing him like an instrument may just have backfired.

[Ashardalon]

Originally posted by ArchaicReaper:

Originally posted by khinra:

The chaos gods played poor old Archaon like a harpsicord, they knew fully well what would happen if he ever got his mitts on that blackhole trinket. Anyways, they exist in all times and on countless worlds so what does one more or less matter to them.

Yeah that's the new canon I mentioned. Old canon, meaning before End Times, there was no cycle of worlds or anything and no indication that they exist across timelines or something. He earned his glory and demanded their favor, which they were forced to give due to his deeds, and they were unable to kill him despite his goal of destroying them. As for new canon, from what I've heard he's basically a chaos god himself now so their plan of playing him like an instrument may just have backfired.

old cannon also had them playing on multiple worlds
usually written about when a chaos warrior gets blessed or stares into a chaos gate
usually they see thousands of worlds burning and being recreated only for their gods to turn away from those burning worlds to grant them a moment of their attention
for just a moment and then turn back to other things

[[L9] Rhinopotamus]

If I remember correctly Chaos didn't actually start AoS the fact that Sigmar, and other Gods survived End Times went on to build the Realms that AoS takes place in. Somehow forgetting to remove the Greenskinz Spores from the creation kit.

[Shandor]

Originally posted by Irongut:

As far as I understand the Lore, the Chaosgods feast upon the feelings and emotions of all living beeings. If they destroy The World they cannot feed themselvs anymore and starve to nonexistens.

Thats the difference between Fantasy and 40k. If the 40k Chaos Gods would "win" and kill every Living Creature in the Universe they would die because they would cut off thier "food".

Unlike 40k the Chaos Gods dont need the Humans, Elves aso. to live. If they kill them all they just move on to the next world.

In 40k the Chaos Gods get might and life from Humans, in case of Slaanesh from Eldar. They "eat" the Emotions of living Creatures.
In Fantasy the Chaos Gods existed before the Humans even existed and will stay if the Humans die. They only use Humans as puppets for their Army because Deamons are unstable in the World since the Elves made the Maelstrom and the Beastman always fail. But once they did conquer the World they dont need the Human servants anymore.
If the Warriors of Chaos win, they will Die. Thats why i cant see a reason why anyone would serve them. Its really dumb.

But in short: The Chaos Gods are different then those you know from 40k.
The 40k Gods want the War going on. They dont want to finish off the Empire.
The Fantasy Chaos Gods want to kill all Humans. Thats the Goal here.

[easytarget]

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[khinra]

Originally posted by ArchaicReaper:

Originally posted by khinra:

The chaos gods played poor old Archaon like a harpsicord, they knew fully well what would happen if he ever got his mitts on that blackhole trinket. Anyways, they exist in all times and on countless worlds so what does one more or less matter to them.

Yeah that's the new canon I mentioned. Old canon, meaning before End Times, there was no cycle of worlds or anything and no indication that they exist across timelines or something. He earned his glory and demanded their favor, which they were forced to give due to his deeds, and they were unable to kill him despite his goal of destroying them. As for new canon, from what I've heard he's basically a chaos god himself now so their plan of playing him like an instrument may just have backfired.

The original canon has warhammer fantasy and 40k being in the same universe so they have always had an endless number of worlds to fight for. Archaon was just another puppet who thought himself smarter than the gods and, not surprisingly, no one can outsmart creatures that can manipulate time and fate itself.

[VhagarTheLastOne]

There's no good without evil, is eternal spiral, yin and yang of destiny, basically.

[Bereaver]

Originally posted by khinra:

Originally posted by ArchaicReaper:

Yeah that's the new canon I mentioned. Old canon, meaning before End Times, there was no cycle of worlds or anything and no indication that they exist across timelines or something. He earned his glory and demanded their favor, which they were forced to give due to his deeds, and they were unable to kill him despite his goal of destroying them. As for new canon, from what I've heard he's basically a chaos god himself now so their plan of playing him like an instrument may just have backfired.

The original canon has warhammer fantasy and 40k being in the same universe so they have always had an endless number of worlds to fight for. Archaon was just another puppet who thought himself smarter than the gods and, not surprisingly, no one can outsmart creatures that can manipulate time and fate itself.

He actually outsmarted them now. He has usurped Slaanesh position, he is actively stealing souls from every Chaos God out othere to create his own demonic troops. Gods are constantly trying to assassinate him, but fail each time and he keeps only getting stronger.
They did not want to ressurect him in AoS in the first place, but he was their only way to access these new Realms. Now they're paying for it.
Actually, between Archaon and Great Horned Rat endless backstabbing, future for the Big Four seems rather bleak.

[Lord Kragan]

Actually, Archaon did survive the end times with Sigmar. Plus Tzeentch seems to be on the rise, with all the new cities and plots that are springing up.

[khinra]

Originally posted by Bereaver:

Originally posted by khinra:

The original canon has warhammer fantasy and 40k being in the same universe so they have always had an endless number of worlds to fight for. Archaon was just another puppet who thought himself smarter than the gods and, not surprisingly, no one can outsmart creatures that can manipulate time and fate itself.

He actually outsmarted them now. He has usurped Slaanesh position, he is actively stealing souls from every Chaos God out othere to create his own demonic troops. Gods are constantly trying to assassinate him, but fail each time and he keeps only getting stronger.
They did not want to ressurect him in AoS in the first place, but he was their only way to access these new Realms. Now they're paying for it.
Actually, between Archaon and Great Horned Rat endless backstabbing, future for the Big Four seems rather bleak.

Again, considering they exist in all worlds across the galaxy (maybe even the universe), him being annoying in 1 world doesnt mean much and even if he is annoying he is ultimately playing their game. Everyone is, whether they want to or not.

[Bereaver]

Originally posted by khinra:

Originally posted by Bereaver:

He actually outsmarted them now. He has usurped Slaanesh position, he is actively stealing souls from every Chaos God out othere to create his own demonic troops. Gods are constantly trying to assassinate him, but fail each time and he keeps only getting stronger.
They did not want to ressurect him in AoS in the first place, but he was their only way to access these new Realms. Now they're paying for it.
Actually, between Archaon and Great Horned Rat endless backstabbing, future for the Big Four seems rather bleak.

Again, considering they exist in all worlds across the galaxy (maybe even the universe), him being annoying in 1 world doesnt mean much and even if he is annoying he is ultimately playing their game. Everyone is, whether they want to or not.

I don't really get what are you talking about here. I did not see anything about Chaos Gods "existing in every timeline in the single moment of time". Are you sure that you're not confusing this with terrible World of Warcraft Burning Legion new lore?

As far as i know, AoS new lore is this - there were countless amounts of worlds, which 4 Chaos Gods (Khorne, Slaanesh,Nurgle and Tzeench) had used for their fun and amusement, and Mallus (WFB) was the last of them. But right now the conditions have changed - actual sphere of power of one Chaos God is usurped by the Everchosen, 1 seat is taken by Giant Rat, and instead of usual 1 world there are vast Realms made by the Winds of Magic itself, which had no precedent before.

AoS lore is that Chaos Gods are not that strong now and new Gods made by the Winds of Magic have more than fair chance to defeat them.

[khinra]

Originally posted by Bereaver:

Originally posted by khinra:

Again, considering they exist in all worlds across the galaxy (maybe even the universe), him being annoying in 1 world doesnt mean much and even if he is annoying he is ultimately playing their game. Everyone is, whether they want to or not.

I don't really get what are you talking about here. I did not see anything about Chaos Gods "existing in every timeline in the single moment of time". Are you sure that you're not confusing this with terrible World of Warcraft Burning Legion new lore?

Depending on which version of the lore you consider they have indeed existed since the universe was created. GW has retconned their lore multiple times over the years so it all depends on which one you find compelling, I havent read up on the AoS lore but I have played Warhammer for 20 years prior to that and if you go WAAAAAY back they have basically existed at all times, being basic sentient emotions given form and power.