Dwarf campaign - do you ally with Vampires?

[Strategy_Game_Lover]

Just wondering. I am at turn 67 and the only Greenskins left are Grimgor's with 4 settlements to the Southeast, and Red eyes have the 2 provinces to the north of Zhufbar. I have two questions. I know they are completely subjective but your experience can help me decide.

BTW, Kislev, Ostermark, Hochland, pretty much everything north of the Vampires is in ruin, and it is just turn 67. WTH is AI doing?

• I am on Good terms with the Vampires. Do I ally with them? Or backstab them and destroy them while their armies are fighting the Empire? Or just stay friendly but not ally. I fear that if I destroy them, then Chaos will beeline for me.
  
• Do I just Fortify Zhufbar and Mount Gunbad and wait for the Chaos to break their head there? Or should I take the 2 provinces to the north of it and fortify them (Karak Kadrin and the one to the north of it)? As you can see, I do not have Ungrim yet
  
• Master Engineers - I will have lots of them as I love research. Do you use them to boost your missile units in battles or make them campaign map monsters?

[Strategy_Game_Lover]

The forum is on fire because of the new DLC.

[Dracon]

Thing with vampires is fact that when they get strong first thing they try will stab you in the back. AI is at total war (pun intended) and goes on full war with each. Thing with chaos is that you either strike them fast or prepare for long fight where they will use chaos corruption and try to break you. I would recommend destroy vampires since they will bring nothing more than troubles. Dealing with orcs will allow you to focus on chaos invasion. Probably most epic fight are the ones I had against chaos faction.

[Budoshi]

im vampire..and dwarves ask for an alliances..well i accepted.. soon after they all did so i cant attack any of the dwarven clans now as they are all allied to me hahah.....strange campaign. i guess you should ally. dwarves doesnt need vampire destroyed in order to win a campaing with victory condition. unless im wrong? if so you can stay neutral so the chaos wont be bothering you. but i would rather ally with the empire as dwarves tho, because vampire will probably turn on you once the empire is destroyed. unless chaos give them trouble.

[Cyprinodon]

Every campaign i play I don't confederate if I can. I try to win only controlling my home territory and my enemies

[Strategy_Game_Lover]

Ok, so the advice seems to be to wipe them out - and honestly it feels natural too. I was allied with the Empire but they kept dragging me into wars with the Vampires which I could not afford because of attacks from the Greenskins from all sides.

I am just worried that if I wipe out the Vampires, then there will be nothing left between me and Chaos. Maybe I should get them to go to war with Chaos and then later backstab them

[Cyprinodon]

get empire to be your shield. undead spread corruption. not good for you.

[Strategy_Game_Lover]

Originally posted by Cyprinodon:

get empire to be your shield. undead spread corruption. not good for you.

Yep, it is a problem. I don't fancy dedicating one building slot in those crucial northern capitals to coruuption reduction. Time to smite the Vampires then. The Red Eyes shall live for now, even if it means I won't have Ungrim for quite some time. Zhufbar and Mount Gunbad will be the fortresses where Chaos shall break. At least that is the plan.

[StarofTanuki]

Ally hmm idk they always hate me in every Campagin.

for Chaos you need that spot and place some ambush aroud blackfire pass , for Zhurbar up to you .

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=802287845&fileuploadsuccess=1

[Strategy_Game_Lover]

Originally posted by Just keep talking :( <52Hz>.,~*:

Ally hmm idk they always hate me in every Campagin.

for Chaos you need that spot and place some ambush aroud blackfire pass , for Zhurbar up to you .

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=802287845&fileuploadsuccess=1

Thanks, this is interesting. I should play a Chaos campaign so I can see where exactly can they come from.

[Vacca]

Originally posted by Strategy_Game_Lover:

I am on Good terms with the Vampires

That's going in the book, laddie.