Why no faction that represents England?

[rupert.b]

Hi there,

I know these kind of discussions have been done to death a little bit and I don't claim to be an expert on Warhammer lore (so please correct me if I'm wrong) however does nobody find it odd that there is no clear faction within the Warhammer universe which represents England?

Maybe I'm just being a little overpatriotic here but I find it strange that a fantasy universe created by the British with such clear correlations with our own world (nearly every other major european power is represented clearly) does not include a faction which is representative of England, particularly given its rich medieval history which has led to it being the basis behind a number of fantasy worlds. Instead the main two Human factions are based on medieval England's tradition rivals, France and the Holy Roman Empire. I am aware of the Albion faction but that is clearly based on the ancent Britons, not the English.

I know there are plenty of people who will say its just fantasy so get over it but when the world is so clearly based on our own (both faction and map) and that world was created by the British I just find it strange that England is not represented. I'm minded to look towards the Dwarves and the Elves but although there are links (Yorkshire accents for Dwarves) there is no clear link to England.

It doesn't particuarly bother me when playing but I'm just interested to learn why it's the case or maybe there is something I'm not seeing, maybe there is a faction that clearly represents England.

[Salty Slothy]

Originally posted by Vlka Fenryka:

Originally posted by TBLackey:

Chaos

xD yes +1
trump = archaon

And chaos won end times so America wins the old world!
'Murica number one, whoo whoo

[BrowneHawk]

Think someone else answered but England is Albion. Its a land shrouded in mystery. Not many people know about it. Rumored to be home of giants. Pretty sure gotrek an felix went there through use of a webway portal.

[Ysthrall]

Rupert.b: I think it might have been a deliberate choice to not have a British faction in play. If they'd had one for WHFB, I can see a lot of possible rather nasty rivalries, people complaining about Brits playing the brit faction, it being OP due to the ownership, and so on.

The easiest way to make sure that your nation isn't over-represented in a competition or world that you are owning and running, is to remove your nation from it entirely.

As an interesting aside, GW did something different years and years ago in a 40k summer event, "The Battle for Ichar IV". They mapped out the planet of Ichar 4 using approximate earth land masses, then sized these proportionally to the amount of GW stores in each country.... USA and Canada were a pair of large islands on the left, Europe an archipeligo in the southern hemisphere, and the massive super-continent of Britian was divided into a series of provinces. And the areas lost or won depending on the results from the campaings, as played in those stores.

I was there, man.... I was there at Ichar IV when the Tyranids came....*

*I invited them, cos I was playing Genstealer Cult, tee hee

[Salty Slothy]

Albion is the not so subtle hint that this is fantasy Britain.

[Rabenschwarz]

Edit:

http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Albion

look at the trivia. Albion is an ancient name of Britain.

[Sometimes_Consistent]

Originally posted by Vlka Fenryka:

Originally posted by TBLackey:

Chaos

xD yes +1
trump = archaon

Rather Trump = Sigvald, but less magnificent.

[Garptain]

This is the kind of nerd arguing I love to see, also as an American don't kid your selves, trump is Archaeon 100 percent. Herald of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ end times. Any of you europeans wanna marry me for a hot minute so I can escape?

[Locke]

Same reason why other countries are not there.

[Voxrox]

That the main protagonist (Empire) is not another generic britain-inspired fantasy-nation is what makes the charm of the setting for me (and why I think Age of Sigmar is very inferior). That a britain-seated company focuses the main factions of humans on germany and france is also kinda funny (both long rivals, germany still with the battle for towels in holidays, though no longer in football, England now has football-rivalries with San Marino ^^ Ha!)

Also it doesen't matter if England was a major power in the medievals. Because fantasy-setting. With different timelines. Empire(and maybe Estalia +Tilea as well) is already in the late 1500/early 1600 renessaince-years. Bretonnia is in the High Medieval ages (and their peasants in the darkest age).

Albion is yet another time-period thrown in, when Britain was not conquered by romans and still followed the old ways, before roman civilization made them less fun ^^

So kudos to GW for at least one vrilliant idea! ^^

[Songbird]

England = Orcs

[Shaunuthun]

Tbf Bretonia lore is very much based on British folklore particularly King arthur. They may have french accents but the Knights of the realm and Grail knights are based on the Knights of the round table. Likewise the pesants of bretonia in game have very rural english accents. I mean come on their goddess is called the lady of the lake. Bretonia is France and England mashed into one country. So yeah England isnt really not represented at all its just not quite as obvious as how. Then again im Scottish so i just sit here with my Dwarfs and be happy : D

[Salty Slothy]

Originally posted by Songbird:

England = Orcs

Lol mostly just a bunch of rowdy SOCCER fans.

[Voxrox]

Originally posted by TheOSB:

Originally posted by Songbird:

England = Orcs

Lol mostly just a bunch of rowdy SOCCER fans.

Soccer? Do Orcs play that? What's soccer? ^^

[Songbird]

Originally posted by Voxrox:

Originally posted by TheOSB:

Lol mostly just a bunch of rowdy SOCCER fans.

Soccer? Do Orcs play that? What's soccer? ^^

He is colonial. We call the game football, like everyone else in the world.

[Nay]

Originally posted by Songbird:

Originally posted by Voxrox:

Soccer? Do Orcs play that? What's soccer? ^^

He is colonial. We call the game football, like everyone else in the world.

Orcs call it Blood Bowl.