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OakenWall Dec 16, 2016 @ 7:44pm
Nerf arrow of kurnos
So i like playing wood elf and all but this skill is a bit stupid good against low armor targets.
it does like 80% of a big boss hp wurzag gets destroyed and kills artillery relly cheap for a "free ability" in that it cost 0 winds of magic and is stronger than a fire ball or other random magic missile. Cut the damage in half or something.
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Shandor Dec 17, 2016 @ 3:25am 
Ok here some scrrenshot. Costum battle, difficult Normal, unit Size Ultra:

On the first one you see a Goblin Katapult with full health and bottom left the green light is the Arrow of Kurons on the way:
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/198553890093901992/55C95F39BEA34B9B221C3266F9684A97294547B6/

And here the same Katapult after the hit:
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/198553890093911166/C77C971DF5E9BCFDE02E54F38A7BA8C6588DBBC6/

The same with an Ork Waarghboss:
Before the Hit
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/198553890093915347/E85AE4DC28E4E5D053F5CBD04A2E1BBC8D6FCA73/

after the hit
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/198553890093916697/F3CDA80ACC7D32FA81784F3937CC8C2E9FF02A1B/


Actually it does more damage then i realized in my campaign battles, if the enemy is VERY far away. 600dmg is really nice. But only 100 on the Ork. (he was much closer to the archer.)
But not even close to anything the OP Says.
Last edited by Shandor; Dec 17, 2016 @ 3:36am
Shandor Dec 17, 2016 @ 4:29am 
Originally posted by Maschinengewehr:
Originally posted by Shandor:
Ok here some scrrenshot. Costum battle, difficult Normal, unit Size Ultra:

On the first one you see a Goblin Katapult with full health and bottom left the green light is the Arrow of Kurons on the way:
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/198553890093901992/55C95F39BEA34B9B221C3266F9684A97294547B6/

And here the same Katapult after the hit:
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/198553890093911166/C77C971DF5E9BCFDE02E54F38A7BA8C6588DBBC6/

The same with an Ork Waarghboss:
Before the Hit
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/198553890093915347/E85AE4DC28E4E5D053F5CBD04A2E1BBC8D6FCA73/

after the hit
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/198553890093916697/F3CDA80ACC7D32FA81784F3937CC8C2E9FF02A1B/


Actually it does more damage then i realized in my campaign battles, if the enemy is VERY far away. 600dmg is really nice. But only 100 on the Ork. (he was much closer to the archer.)
But not even close to anything the OP Says.

It did destroy an arty piece though, so that much is true. The rest wouldn't be considered "OP' in the slightest.

P.S Did you name the doomdivers 'kamikazekatapult' or is that the direct German translation? Because I really hope its the translation :D

Its the Translation. (Same name in the Tabletop) Its Doomdrivers in original? I think Kamikaze is very fitting since the Goblins with the "wings" this thing Throws are very much like the Japanese Pilots crashing into Ships.
Last edited by Shandor; Dec 17, 2016 @ 4:29am
OakenWall Dec 17, 2016 @ 11:40am 
i have taken screenshots where i 2 shot wurzag with 2 arrow of kurnos, I dont know where on steam its saved though
OakenWall Dec 17, 2016 @ 12:18pm 
They allready have more range than any other and can do guerilla warfare just fine with archers, this thread is about arrow of kurnos you tool, not their archers.

Keep as is and il play wood elves into woodelves and spam the ♥♥♥♥ out of this on them, np, but it ruins options for others,
Last edited by OakenWall; Dec 17, 2016 @ 12:23pm
Shandor Dec 17, 2016 @ 12:42pm 
Originally posted by OakenWall:
i have taken screenshots where i 2 shot wurzag with 2 arrow of kurnos, I dont know where on steam its saved though

In your library where your Games listed.. click on Total War Warhammer.. you got the start button there and the DLCs.. if you scroll down a bit you see your Screenshots.
Shandor Dec 17, 2016 @ 12:57pm 
Originally posted by Burke:
Originally posted by OakenWall:
They allready have more range than any other and can do guerilla warfare just fine with archers, this thread is about arrow of kurnos you tool, not their archers.

Keep as is and il play wood elves into woodelves and spam the ♥♥♥♥ out of this on them, np, but it ruins options for others,
Yes, and I addressed the Arrow of Kurnos since it's their only means of forcing a defensive artillery faction from moving from their hills. I first addressed that and then made fun of complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like you who cry "nerf" without knowing why certain mechanics exists. A single mortar round can do havoc on Wardancers thus why Waystalkers have a means of forcing camping factions to move and engage Wood Elves in the forest where they have an advantage.

Try some reading comprehension, "you tool".

Wild Riders or/and Eagles are more effective then a 10% HP Shot every few minutes against Artillery.
OakenWall Dec 17, 2016 @ 1:04pm 
Originally posted by Burke:
Originally posted by OakenWall:
They allready have more range than any other and can do guerilla warfare just fine with archers, this thread is about arrow of kurnos you tool, not their archers.

Keep as is and il play wood elves into woodelves and spam the ♥♥♥♥ out of this on them, np, but it ruins options for others,
Yes, and I addressed the Arrow of Kurnos since it's their only means of forcing a defensive artillery faction from moving from their hills. I first addressed that and then made fun of complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like you who cry "nerf" without knowing why certain mechanics exists. A single mortar round can do havoc on Wardancers thus why Waystalkers have a means of forcing camping factions to move and engage Wood Elves in the forest where they have an advantage.

Try some reading comprehension, "you tool".

yes you dont need arrow of kurnos to fight artillery. Artillery isnt even that good in the first place so yes you are a tool.
Last edited by OakenWall; Dec 17, 2016 @ 1:09pm
OakenWall Dec 17, 2016 @ 1:19pm 
check my steam libary there are 4 screenshots 1 before and 1 after each of the 2 hits. I took 2 so you cleary can see the arrow in the air

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198006674376/screenshots/
Last edited by OakenWall; Dec 17, 2016 @ 1:19pm
gachi is manly Dec 17, 2016 @ 1:26pm 
It would be doing thousands of damage to be hurting a lord that much.

Methinks something is wrong, my Arrow of Kurnous doesn't do near that much.
OakenWall Dec 17, 2016 @ 1:30pm 
I admit it does not allways do that much damage, but it should never do that, had the same happend to a big boss but sadly cant find the replay of that

I was making orc builds and tested vs elves and my heroes/lord kept getting destroyed which is why i made this thread.
Last edited by OakenWall; Dec 17, 2016 @ 1:38pm
Dec 17, 2016 @ 1:37pm 
I think we been feeding this noob troll for too long.

Time to move on guys, nothing to see here. All garbage claims, fake much.
Last edited by ; Dec 17, 2016 @ 1:38pm
Shandor Dec 17, 2016 @ 4:11pm 
Originally posted by OakenWall:
check my steam libary there are 4 screenshots 1 before and 1 after each of the 2 hits. I took 2 so you cleary can see the arrow in the air

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198006674376/screenshots/

All i see is a HP Bar. Its empthy then full then half empthy. I could be everything..
In my screenshots you see the arrows on the way and you can see how much time is passed since the units behind the target are moving in the battle.

Your screenshot only proofs that the Target.. cant even see what it is... losing HP. How much and what from, no one can tell.

But since im tested it in 20 possible ways. Different targets, Hero and Lord both could have it and i tested both of them. Different Ranges.. max range and minimum range.
And it never does more then 650 dmg max. Most times it makes less then that.
So i dont really care if your screenshot is exactly what you say. I trust me more then i trust you :)
Last edited by Shandor; Dec 17, 2016 @ 4:14pm
OakenWall Dec 17, 2016 @ 6:46pm 
I just tested it against wood elf lord on dragon, screenshots uploaded, did 80-90% of his hp.
Sure it wont happend every time but that game is pretty much over after this.

PS. If you cant see the green arrow in the air and the time of the screenshots are about the same second i dont know how much more proof you want. Against wood elf lord you can cleary see its a lord on dragon im shooting aswell with the symbol clearly visible, Ds

Anyway im done testing, if people dont want to admit or belive its no longer my concern, il just play my woodelves into woodelfs throwing kurnos at them until its changed.
Last edited by OakenWall; Dec 17, 2016 @ 9:30pm
Max Planck Dec 18, 2016 @ 4:16am 
Originally posted by OakenWall:
check my steam libary there are 4 screenshots 1 before and 1 after each of the 2 hits. I took 2 so you cleary can see the arrow in the air

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198006674376/screenshots/

You are playing on the 'tiny' unit size, magic will do a whole lot more damage compared to playing on normal/large/huge. Large is the recommended size, balance-wise.

Unit size is changed in game settings, not campaign options. You might have to upgrade your gpu if you want to use a higher setting, I know I had to.
Last edited by Max Planck; Dec 18, 2016 @ 5:23am
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