Wood elves which lord to play?

[MessiahofMelons]

Want to play a wood elf campaign but dunno which lord to play. Im interested in the Durthu(tree-folk) but should i start with Orion (wood elves) to get used to wood elves?

I prob wont confederate so its one or the other for me

[goka9696]

Durthu.

He's better in every way, including his character.

He's just so pissed all the time it's hilarious.

[Rhedd]

Man, I LOVE Wood Elves but I just don't feel the love for either Lord choice. I'll tell you this, though, Durthu is a MONSTER on the battlefield. Kind of nice to start the campaign with a Lord that's quite that unstoppable.

I hear Orion becomes a real powerhouse too, later on, but I just can't get the hang of using a non-melee, non-mage hero.

[Shandor]

Durthu is a much better Lord then Orion. And he can buy the better troops without Amber. Except for the Sisters of Thorn but you need only one per army.

Durthu himself is a very strong Melee, Tank Lord with alot very good Spells and very good Support for his Army. Orion has the support also but he is a short range, Ranged lord. He is a bit of everything but not really good in everything. His Range is to low for a real good Ranged Lord but in Close combat he dies kinda fast. Durthu in lategame never Dies.

Durthu can recruit the base Archers, who are the best Archers anyways with poison.
He can recruit the Wild Riders. The best Unit the Woodelves have. (A group of 5 Wild Riders with 1 Sister of Thorn is almost unstopable with some Support Skills and some Exp)
And he has a very good Infantry with the Treekin and Treeman.
You could also make a Arifroce Army with him without Amber. Great Eagles, Hawk Riders and Dragons.

If you need help.. i made a Guide a wile ago. Search for "A Woodelf Guide" here in the forum.

[MessiahofMelons]

Right durthu it is. Am happy to hear that cause he is badass XD

Edit: also just came from a vlad campaign and he is crazy op so durthu prob best choice.

[MessiahofMelons]

Originally posted by Shandor:

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If you need help.. i made a Guide a wile ago. Search for "A Woodelf Guide" here in the forum.

Will do :3

[Barser]

It is true. Durthu is the better choice.

[Shandor]

Btw if you play Durthu. Give him a Item with more Fire Resistance. It helps him a bit. Usualy Fire is not a real Problem even if he gets more dmg from Fire. But in some battles it can hurt. So a Fire Resist item is nice to have.

[Harukage]

I always wonder why people try to play wood elves without wood elves...
The whole two faction system and amber is stupid.

[Shandor]

Originally posted by Harukage:

I always wonder why people try to play wood elves without wood elves...
The whole two faction system and amber is stupid.

I like it. Its something different and make the two lords interesting because they are very different to play.

And btw if i play Durthu, more then the half of the army are Woodelves.
A typical Standard Army for me is build of 6 Archers with Poison, 5 Wild Riders, 1 Sister of Thorn, 1 Spellsinger and 1 Archer Hero.
Rest is Treekin and Treeman.

[Harukage]

Yeah, and here are a bunch of other retarded things about that.
There is no such thing as Durthu faction to begin with, with elves or without. He is a mad dog that lashes at everything hurting the forest. And while he may regret bringing elves in, he still behaves like a lap dog of Ariel. She is the only one who can sooth his pain and ease his spirit. And offcourse he does not opose Orion. And Argwylon is not ruled by Durthu or any forest spirits. The whole setup makes no sense.
Also why the hell hawk riders still cost amber to hire while playng as Orion, when Wild Riders, the freaking elite retinue of Orion, do no cost any when playing as Durthu?

[goka9696]

Originally posted by Harukage:

I always wonder why people try to play wood elves without wood elves...
The whole two faction system and amber is stupid.

There is a mod that disables amber

Originally posted by Harukage:

Yeah, and here are a bunch of other retarded things about that.
There is no such thing as Durthu faction to begin with, with elves or without. He is a mad dog that lashes at everything hurting the forest. And while he may regret bringing elves in, he still behaves like a lap dog of Ariel. She is the only one who can sooth his pain and ease his spirit. And offcourse he does not opose Orion. And Argwylon is not ruled by Durthu or any forest spirits. The whole setup makes no sense.
Also why the hell hawk riders still cost amber to hire while playng as Orion, when Wild Riders, the freaking elite retinue of Orion, do no cost any when playing as Durthu?

"Durthu is a mad dog"

Wood Elves in Warhammer aren't exactly sane and nice people.

[Shandor]

Originally posted by Harukage:

Yeah, and here are a bunch of other retarded things about that.
There is no such thing as Durthu faction to begin with, with elves or without. He is a mad dog that lashes at everything hurting the forest. And while he may regret bringing elves in, he still behaves like a lap dog of Ariel. She is the only one who can sooth his pain and ease his spirit. And offcourse he does not opose Orion. And Argwylon is not ruled by Durthu or any forest spirits. The whole setup makes no sense.
Also why the hell hawk riders still cost amber to hire while playng as Orion, when Wild Riders, the freaking elite retinue of Orion, do no cost any when playing as Durthu?

Because Hawks are Forst Spirits here. As well as Eagles. So they are 50/50. They could be Amberless for both sides. So they gave them to Durthu for balancing reasons.
Wild Riders are free for both because its the best Unit the Woodelves have. It would be unfair and Hard if one of the Factions would not have them.

Well and Durthu is a Woodelf Lord. And Lords Lead Armies. In the Tabletop and in TW.
From the Lore, Durthu should not be a Leader. He should be a Lonewolf kind of guy. But thats not how it works. There are no lonewolf Lords because its a Game that is not made for solo characters.

And yes.. Woodelves/Spirits are not Humans. You cant consider them Insane or sane by Human Standards. Humans dont understand the Elven thinking and Elves will never understand the Humans.

[Harukage]

Originally posted by goka9696:

Wood Elves in Warhammer aren't exactly sane and nice people.

They may not be nice, or sometimes may be, but they are absolutely sane.
Durthu is mad from anger and pain though. But still have some crumbs of sanity within him to not anger Ariel.

Originally posted by Shandor:

Because Hawks are Forst Spirits here. As well as Eagles. So they are 50/50. They could be Amberless for both sides. So they gave them to Durthu for balancing reasons.

They are not. It was discussed thousand times. Hawks and Eagles are just big sentient birds from the Grey Mountains. There is nothing of the Athel Loren in them. They do not even live within it.

[Wyvern]

Whether or not you think you will confederate, you really should, not confederating as welves/argwylon is just gimping yourself. Also, the amber mechanic and faction split is imho both very good, makes you think your priorities through.

[Spotty Dog]

Either, don campaign as both.